Hi Gorry and all,

Thanks.
New version is ready. 
URL:      https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-regext-epp-quic-11.txt
Status:   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-regext-epp-quic/
HTMLized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-regext-epp-quic
Diff:     
https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-regext-epp-quic-11


I hope that this version addresses all concerns.

Best Regards
Jiankang 
> 2026年7月2日 00:40,Gorry Fairhurst <[email protected]> 写道:
> 
> On 01/07/2026 18:33, Jiankang Yao wrote:
>> Hello Gorry,
>> 
>>      Thanks for your kind comments. Some responses inline below.
>> 
>>> 2026年6月28日 04:24,Gorry Fairhurst via Datatracker <[email protected]> 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> 写道:
>>> 
>>> Gorry Fairhurst has entered the following ballot position for
>>> draft-ietf-regext-epp-quic-10: Discuss
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> Please refer to 
>>> https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/handling-ballot-positions/
>>>  
>>> for more information about how to handle DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-regext-epp-quic/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> DISCUSS:
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Please find below a blocking DISCUSS points (easy to address), some
>>> non-blocking COMMENT points/nits (replies would be appreciated even if only 
>>> for
>>> my own education).
>>> 
>>> As noted in
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/statement-iesg-handling-ballot-positions-20220121/,
>>> a DISCUSS ballot is a request to have a discussion on the point below, 
>>> which I
>>> expect will be very easy to resolve:
>>> 
>>> The current text says: "Operators are encouraged to provision network paths
>>> with appropriate MTU sizes to avoid packet fragmentation for EPP message
>>> delivery." - I don't really understand what this is asking for and what is
>>> needed, please clarify. -
>> 
>> 
>> Section 14 of RFC 9000 says “QUIC MUST NOT be used if the network path 
>> cannot support a maximum datagram size of at least 1200 bytes.”.
>> 
>> "UDP datagrams MUST NOT be fragmented at the IP layer. In IPv4 [IPv4 
>> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9000.html#IPv4>], the Don't Fragment (DF) 
>> bit MUST be set if possible, to prevent fragmentation on the path.”
>> 
>> So here just emphasised that network paths are ok for EPP over QUIC to be 
>> used.
>> 
> This is all true, but you may like to exactly quote the RFC9000 words in the 
> spec., to avoid trying to paraphrase them.
>> 
>>>  When I started reading I assumed this was the
>>> standard QUIC datagram size (as in section 14), but maybe this means to say
>>> more, or I was just thrown by the term "MTU" here? - And please explain 
>>> what is
>>> the fragmentation described here?
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Actually, the main idea is just to follow Section 14 of RFC 9000 for EPP 
>> message delivery.
>> 
>> How about,
>> 
>> Old:
>> 
>> “EoQ implementations MUST follow the MTU and fragmentation guidance defined 
>> in [RFC9000 
>> <https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-regext-epp-quic-10.html#RFC9000>].
>>  Operators are encouraged to provision network paths with appropriate MTU 
>> sizes to avoid packet fragmentation for EPP message delivery."
>> 
>> 
>> New:
>> 
>>  "EoQ implementations MUST follow Section 14 of RFC9000  [RFC9000 
>> <https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-regext-epp-quic-10.html#RFC9000>].."
>> 
>> 
> Exactly, this would be be fine.
>> 
>> 
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> COMMENT:
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Thank you for submitting this document, I have the following comments:
>>> 
>>> (1) I couldn't really understand why this RFC is specifying transport over
>>> QUIC, but expect there was some specific need. I think that ought to be 
>>> clearer.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> EPP is primarily deployed for communication between domain registries and 
>> registrars, which commonly run dozens to hundreds of concurrent EPP sessions.
>>  Traditional EPP-over-TCP (EoT) requires a dedicated TCP connection for 
>> every single EPP session, resulting in substantial connection overhead and 
>> resource consumption.
>> EoQ addresses this issue by leveraging QUIC stream multiplexing: multiple 
>> independent EPP sessions can run over one single persistent QUIC connection. 
> That seems a good case, to me, please these points into an early part of the 
> document to explain.
>> 
>> 
>> EoQ provides registries and registrars with an additional flexible transport 
>> option.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> (2) The security properties of QUIC do differ to those of TLS/TCP, in as 
>>> much
>>> as QUIC us an encrypted transport - see 21.1 in the security considerations 
>>> of
>>> RFC9000.
>> 
>> 
>> Maybe, this is another reason that we use EoQ. :)
> Yes, that would also be good, but you need to state that in the I-D.
> 
> And be careful in the security considerations that you refer to RFC9000's 
> security considerations to avoid paraphrasing RFC9000.
> 
>> 
>> Thanks a lot.
>> 
>> Jiankang Yao
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Gorry
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
> I'll review the revised I-D when published, but if you wish to sen specific 
> proposed text I can also read that ahead of making a new revision,
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Gorry
> 
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