Hi Ed,

This is crystal clear !

Thanks !


Séb  :)



Edward d'Auvergne wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Parameter scaling is a technique for better conditioning of the
> optimisation problem.  Some minimisation algorithms significantly
> benefit from this whereas others are unaffected.  An example is for
> model free analysis where S2 in on the order of 1 and te on the order
> of 1e^-12.  The parameters are scaled so they are all on the order of
> 1.  So S2 is unscaled and te is scaled by 1e12.  Without this, the te
> dimension of the space is absolutely tiny compared to the S2 and Rex
> dimensions causing some optimisation algorithms to catastrophically
> fail (because of the algorithm, because of truncation artifacts,
> etc.).  So for safety, you can just use scaling factors to get all
> relaxation dispersion parameters onto the order of ~1.  I hope this
> clearly explains the concept.
>
> Regards,
>
> Edward
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 4:26 AM, Sébastien Morin
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>   
>> Hi Ed,
>>
>> I am not so familiar with scaling in minimization...
>>
>> How can I determine if a given parameter would benefit from scaling ?
>> Is only speed affected when scaling is used ?
>>
>> Thanks !
>>
>>
>> Séb
>>
>>
>>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>     
>>> Author: semor
>>> Date: Tue Jan 13 04:24:37 2009
>>> New Revision: 8429
>>>
>>> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/relax?rev=8429&view=rev
>>> Log:
>>> Started to implement the scaling matrix for scaling the 'R2eff' values.
>>>
>>> This might change in the future as other possible curve fitting parameters 
>>> ('R2', 'Rex', 'kex',
>>> 'R2A', 'kA', 'dw') might need some scaling.
>>>
>>>
>>> Modified:
>>>     branches/relax_disp/specific_fns/relax_disp.py
>>>
>>> Modified: branches/relax_disp/specific_fns/relax_disp.py
>>> URL: 
>>> http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/relax/branches/relax_disp/specific_fns/relax_disp.py?rev=8429&r1=8428&r2=8429&view=diff
>>> ==============================================================================
>>> --- branches/relax_disp/specific_fns/relax_disp.py (original)
>>> +++ branches/relax_disp/specific_fns/relax_disp.py Tue Jan 13 04:24:37 2009
>>> @@ -143,17 +143,17 @@
>>>
>>>          # Loop over the parameters.
>>>          for i in xrange(len(spin.params)):
>>> -            # Relaxation rate.
>>> -            if spin.params[i] == 'Rx':
>>> -                pass
>>> -
>>> -            # Intensity scaling.
>>>             elif search('^i', spin.params[i]):
>>> +            # Effective transversal relaxation rate scaling.
>>> +            if spin.params[i] == 'R2eff':
>>>                  # Find the position of the first CPMG pulse train 
>>> frequency point.
>>>                  pos = cdp.cpmg_frqs.index(min(cdp.cpmg_frqs))
>>>
>>>                  # Scaling.
>>> -                scaling_matrix[i, i] = 1.0 / average(spin.intensities[pos])
>>> +                scaling_matrix[i, i] = 1.0 / average(spin.r2effs[pos])
>>> +
>>> +            # No scaling for other parameters.
>>> +            else:
>>> +                pass
>>>
>>>              # Increment i.
>>>              i = i + 1
>>>
>>>
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