On 15 September 2010 00:47, Michael Bieri <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Am 15.09.2010 01:28, schrieb Edward d'Auvergne: >> >> Hi, >> >> This seems like a great idea. Anything to make it easier for the user >> would be better. I've installed this on my Win2k VM image and tested >> it - on Mandriva 2010.0, I could not compile the bootloader image so >> could not test it. This is not a simple process and there are a few >> problems: >> >> 1) The first is automation of the process for packages. Pyinstaller >> seems to need to run python within the pyinstaller installation >> directory. The *.spec file would be better to be in the relax file >> system and this should be scripted to be all self contained within >> relax. We need all of this info in the relax file structure so that >> someone can take over the process in the future. >> > > That's a bit annoying, but considering it only has to be made a couple of > time, we should be able to deal with it.
We would have to work out how to do this. >> 2) I've now included the relax logo graphics in the 'graphics' >> directory, but on Windows I cannot use the ulysses.ico file for the >> program icon. >> > > Do you get the 'Python' icon? I had the same issue. It seems that Python has > no control on the icon of programs on Windows. Actually, the icon is some butterfly. But it is not the relax butterfly! Specifying the icon or not makes no difference but, according to the documentation, it should. >> 3) Another problem I have is that when launching the compiled relax >> program on Windows built in this way, the program tries to access the >> Internet. I have no idea what this is doing, but relax should not be >> doing this. This is very, very suspicious behaviour :S >> > > That's very bad! There has to be a way to block it! I don't think blocking is the way. This should not happen at all. I noticed this as the Zonealarm firewall I'm using caught the connection. The binary will not run without first making this connection?!? >> 4) Running the test suite is a catastrophe. There are 146 errors in >> 155 system tests, and the unit tests will not even run. >> >> 5) The traceback messages do not have the normal relax file >> structure, so we may not be able to help users with errors on these >> versions. >> > > Maybe it is more for GUI users, where messages are displayed in the > controller... The messages in the controller will still be difficult to understand. Just check the test suite to see what happens. >> The concept that the user downloads a single file without any >> dependencies is a great idea for Windows users, or even all users who >> would like to run it without administrator privileges. But all these >> problems will have to be sorted out before this would be of any use. >> > > I think it would be great especially for users that don't want to install > Python and all the additional modules, as it might end up with quite a mess > in Windows and Mac. I still think Linux users will prefer the Python source > code and just install the modules (which is simple on Linux). But for non > experts, that would be a very simple way to quickly analyze relaxation data. This would be good. Mac users have fink packages thanks to Jack Howarth "howarth att bromo dot msbb dot uc dot edu" so that usage on Macs is very easy already. Linux users have a simple life as it is very easy to set up Python, and even to locally install python without root access. So I think this would be of primary benefit to Windows users suffering under the tyranny of lazy sys admins ;) Maybe a simpler way would be to make a linux virtual image that can be burnt onto CD or booted in a virtual machine where everything is already installed? There are other alternatives as well http://www.py2exe.org/. I'm not sure if pyinstaller or py2exe can handle relax's test suite though. I just checked the secret internet connection again, and today it's using a different IP address, this time in Germany :S This is incredibly suspicious!! Below is more info. 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