Hi Seb,

You need to have a look at the v3.1 file at:

http://www.bmrb.wisc.edu/ftp/pub/bmrb/entry_lists/nmr-star3.1

The Rex and J(w) values are missing in this version too.  In the
Order_parameter saveframe (equivalent to the v2.1 S2_parameters
saveframe), you'll see that the models are consistent.  We did however
agree, after a detailed and complete discussion, to a new model naming
scheme for all different model-free model possibilities:

https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-devel/2009-03/msg00022.html
https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-devel/2009-03/msg00024.html
https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-devel/2009-03/msg00027.html
https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-devel/2009-03/msg00028.html
https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-devel/2009-03/msg00038.html
https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-devel/2009-03/msg00039.html

In the end, from memory I thought we decided that the model_fit tag
would consist of the following:

""
"S2"
"S2,te"
"S2,Rex"
"S2,te,Rex"
"S2f,S2,ts"
"S2f,tf,S2,ts"
"S2f,S2,ts,Rex"
"S2f,tf,S2,ts,Rex"
"Rex"

and that no other values would be accepted, it would be a closed
enumeration, I think the terminology is called.  There are many v3.1
entries that would need to be updated for this.

Regards,

Edward




On 4 April 2011 15:03, Sébastien Morin <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Eldon,
>
> Entry 6838 indeed does not contain any Rex, but should as these were
> deposited:
>
>    https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-devel/2011-02/msg00005.html
>    # Message-id: <[email protected]>
>
> Moreover, there are still other missing data, i.e. reduced spectral density
> values (J0, JwN, JwH at 500, 600 and 800 MHz), in this entry that were
> deposited but never incorporated:
>
>    https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-devel/2011-02/msg00006.html
>    # Message-id: <[email protected]>
>
> I just had a look at the entry
> (http://www.bmrb.wisc.edu/data_library/generate_summary?6838) and realized
> the "Model_fit" tags in the "S2 Parameters" saveframe were filled. This is
> good, but leads me to another consideration which probably has already been
> discussed (sorry if this is the case)... In some entries as 6838,
> "Model_fit" is a model name (e.g. "m3"), whereas in other entries, it is a
> list of parameters used for the model (e.g. "S2, Rex", which is equivalent
> to "m3"). Should these be standardized ? If yes, how ?
>
> Thanks for the follow-up on the different entries, especially on 6838 !
> Best regards,
>
>
> Séb  :)
>
>
>
>
> On 11-04-01 6:38 PM, Eldon Ulrich wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The order of the tags is fixed, so what will need to be done is move the
>> data columns to match the appropriate tag. It appears that the entry
>> does not contain any Rex data, if the Model_fit information and
>> following data are offset by two columns. The entry has been modified
>> and should appear tomorrow.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Eldon
>>
>> On 4/1/11 8:12 AM, Edward d'Auvergne wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> The 6838 entry also has the tag names mixed up in the Order_parameter
>>> saveframe.  The following change is necessary, otherwise the Rex
>>> errors are the model-free model names!
>>>
>>> diff -urd --ignore-all-space --ignore-space-change
>>> --ignore-blank-lines ./bmr6838.str
>>> ../../../../../../bmr3.1_files/bmr6838.str
>>> --- ./bmr6838.str     2011-04-01 05:01:00.000000000 +0200
>>> +++ ../../../../../../bmr3.1_files/bmr6838.str        2011-04-01
>>> 15:11:00.000000000 +0200
>>> @@ -7712,14 +7712,14 @@
>>>       _Order_param.Tau_f_val_fit_err
>>>       _Order_param.Tau_s_val
>>>       _Order_param.Tau_s_val_fit_err
>>> -    _Order_param.Rex_val
>>> -    _Order_param.Rex_val_fit_err
>>>       _Order_param.Model_free_sum_squared_errs
>>>       _Order_param.Model_fit
>>>       _Order_param.Sf2_val
>>>       _Order_param.Sf2_val_fit_err
>>>       _Order_param.Ss2_val
>>>       _Order_param.Ss2_val_fit_err
>>> +    _Order_param.Rex_val
>>> +    _Order_param.Rex_val_fit_err
>>>       _Order_param.SH2_val
>>>       _Order_param.SH2_val_fit_err
>>>       _Order_param.SN2_val
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Edward
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 April 2011 15:06, Edward d'Auvergne<[email protected]>   wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> It is now fixed.  But I noticed that the Rex data from bmr6838.str in
>>>> the Order_parameter saveframe is missing?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Edward
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 31 March 2011 19:02, Eldon Ulrich<[email protected]>   wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the catch. The entry has been fixed and should be available
>>>>> tomorrow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eldon
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/31/11 3:21 AM, Edward d'Auvergne wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I noticed also that entry 15183 was recently updated with a fix to the
>>>>>> sequence numbering. However there are still some problems with the
>>>>>> residue names in one of the Order_parameter saveframes.  The following
>>>>>> is the diff:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff -urd --ignore-all-space --ignore-space-change
>>>>>> --ignore-blank-lines ./bmr15183.str
>>>>>> ../../../../../../bmr3.1_files/bmr15183.str
>>>>>> --- ./bmr15183.str      2011-03-30 05:02:47.000000000 +0200
>>>>>> +++ ../../../../../../bmr3.1_files/bmr15183.str 2011-03-30
>>>>>> 11:47:09.000000000 +0200
>>>>>> @@ -1562,14 +1562,14 @@
>>>>>>       107    .   1    2    117    117    THR    N    N    .   0.981
>>>>>> 0.01     1.00E-09    2.90E-10    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
>>>>>>    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
>>>>>>       108    .   1    2    118    118    ASP    N    N    .   0.957
>>>>>> 0.001    1.00E-09    0.00E+00    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
>>>>>>    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
>>>>>>       109    .   1    2    119    119    GLU    N    N    .   0.91
>>>>>> 0.001    1.00E-09    0.00E+00    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
>>>>>>    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
>>>>>> -    110    .   1    2    120    120    GLN    N    N    .   0.967
>>>>>> 0.001    1.00E-09    0.00E+00    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
>>>>>>    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
>>>>>> +    110    .   1    2    120    120    GLU    N    N    .   0.967
>>>>>> 0.001    1.00E-09    0.00E+00    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
>>>>>>    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
>>>>>>       111    .   1    2    121    121    VAL    N    N    .   0.972
>>>>>> 0.003    1.00E-09    0.00E+00    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
>>>>>>    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
>>>>>>       112    .   1    2    122    122    ASP    N    N    .   0.962
>>>>>> 0        1.00E-09    0.00E+00    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
>>>>>>    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
>>>>>>       113    .   1    2    123    123    GLU    N    N    .   0.953
>>>>>> 0        1.00E-09    0.00E+00    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
>>>>>>    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
>>>>>>       114    .   1    2    125    125    ILE    N    N    .   0.972
>>>>>> 0.002    1.00E-09    0.00E+00    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
>>>>>>    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
>>>>>>       115    .   1    2    126    126    ARG    N    N    .   0.957
>>>>>> 0.002    1.00E-09    0.00E+00    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
>>>>>>    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
>>>>>>       116    .   1    2    127    127    GLU    N    N    .   0.981
>>>>>> 0.009    1.00E-09    5.20E-10    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
>>>>>>    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
>>>>>> -    117    .   1    2    128    128    SER    N    N    .   0.953
>>>>>> 0.009    1.00E-09    1.80E-10    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
>>>>>>    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
>>>>>> +    117    .   1    2    128    128    ALA    N    N    .   0.953
>>>>>> 0.009    1.00E-09    1.80E-10    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
>>>>>>    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
>>>>>>       118    .   1    2    129    129    ASP    N    N    .   0.707
>>>>>> 0.008    1.57E-11    1.00E-12    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
>>>>>>    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
>>>>>>       119    .   1    2    130    130    ILE    N    N    .   0.962
>>>>>> 0.009    2.16E-11    1.06E-11    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
>>>>>>    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
>>>>>>       120    .   1    2    131    131    ASP    N    N    .   0.91
>>>>>> 0.01     5.00E-14    0.00E+00    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
>>>>>>    .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   15183    1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Edward
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 30 March 2011 17:28, Eldon Ulrich<[email protected]>     wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yea, I just noticed that 6474 and 6577 were not quite right as I was
>>>>>>> double
>>>>>>> checking the released files, not sure what happened.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Eldon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/30/11 7:17 AM, Edward d'Auvergne wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh, the new v3.1 bmr6577.str entry is missing the S2 error as well.
>>>>>>>> This data is in the v2.1 files but not the new v3.1 files.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Edward
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 30 March 2011 14:14, Edward d'Auvergne<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm just looking at the new v3.1 entries and noticed that
>>>>>>>>> bmr6474.str
>>>>>>>>> is missing the S2 and Rex errors.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Edward
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 30 March 2011 11:06, Edward d'Auvergne<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The values should all be ps for 17041, 17046, and 17047.  The
>>>>>>>>>> numbers
>>>>>>>>>> for tau_e, tau_f, and tau_s range from about 10 ps to 2000-4000
>>>>>>>>>> ps.
>>>>>>>>>> So it can be seen from the data that the three tags in all these
>>>>>>>>>> entries should be:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    _Order_parameter_list.Tau_e_val_units               ps
>>>>>>>>>>    _Order_parameter_list.Tau_f_val_units               ps
>>>>>>>>>>    _Order_parameter_list.Tau_s_val_units               ps
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For the attachments, these are not attached to the email, but
>>>>>>>>>> rather
>>>>>>>>>> attached to the link https://gna.org/task/?6438.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Edward
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 29 March 2011 17:15, Eldon Ulrich<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am finishing the edits on the first batch of v2.1 and v3.1
>>>>>>>>>>> files
>>>>>>>>>>> today. In
>>>>>>>>>>> looking at the related entries 17041, 17046, and 17047, one has a
>>>>>>>>>>> tau
>>>>>>>>>>> e
>>>>>>>>>>> value of ns (17041) and the others are ps (17046 and 17047). I
>>>>>>>>>>> changed
>>>>>>>>>>> 17041
>>>>>>>>>>> to ps, although I did not see this change in your list. Although,
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>> missed the suggested change. Could you please review these three
>>>>>>>>>>> entries
>>>>>>>>>>> once they are released, hopefully tomorrow or Thursday.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also, This email did not seem to have the attachments. I have a
>>>>>>>>>>> feeling
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> may have lost a followup email, but could you resend the
>>>>>>>>>>> attachments.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I will start to look at the blacklisted entries after finishing
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> less
>>>>>>>>>>> offensive problems.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Eldon
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/24/11 5:43 AM, Edward d Auvergne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Follow-up Comment #10, task #6438 (project relax):
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This set of diffs for the v2.1 and v3.1 files now includes the
>>>>>>>>>>>> relaxation
>>>>>>>>>>>> data BMRB entries (with no model-free data).  The following
>>>>>>>>>>>> entries
>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>> blacklisted, as relax cannot use them:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> # The blacklist.
>>>>>>>>>>>> blacklist = []                              # Init.
>>>>>>>>>>>> blacklist = blacklist + ['bmr16933.str']     # Rubbish relxn2.2
>>>>>>>>>>>> data!
>>>>>>>>>>>> blacklist = blacklist + ['bmr4697.str']     # Unknown
>>>>>>>>>>>> spectrometer
>>>>>>>>>>>> frequency.
>>>>>>>>>>>> blacklist = blacklist + ['bmr5520.str', 'bmr5521.str']     #
>>>>>>>>>>>> Entity
>>>>>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>>>>> with 2 molecules.
>>>>>>>>>>>> blacklist = blacklist + ['bmr5715.str', 'bmr6758.str',
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'bmr16639.str']
>>>>>>>>>>>> #
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sequence corruption.
>>>>>>>>>>>> blacklist = blacklist + ['bmr6332.str', 'bmr7205.str']     #
>>>>>>>>>>>> Totally
>>>>>>>>>>>> mangled
>>>>>>>>>>>> sequence!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Most of these require work on the BMRB side.  The model-free
>>>>>>>>>>>> entries
>>>>>>>>>>>> read
>>>>>>>>>>>> into relax include:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4096, 4245, 4267, 4364, 4365, 4366, 4390, 4689, 4970, 5153,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5154,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5330,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5331,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5548, 5549, 5550, 5808, 5841, 5991, 6243, 6466, 6470, 6474,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 6577,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 6838,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 7126,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 7139, 7219, 15097, 15144, 15183, 15184, 15185, 15186, 15187,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 15188,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 15191,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 15230, 15445, 15451, 15536, 15562, 15910, 16392, 16925, 16931,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 17010,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 17012,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 17013, 17041, 17046, 17047, 17069
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The purely relaxation data entries read into relax are:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4376, 4671, 4762, 4763, 4764, 4801, 4870, 5076, 5079, 5080,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5131,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5272,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5505,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5518, 5519, 5569, 5687, 5707, 5720, 5746, 5762, 5801, 5818,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5839,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5858,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5995,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5996, 6060, 6092, 6182, 6494, 6495, 6579, 6880, 6881, 6899,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 7021,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 7035,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 7036,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 7056, 7088, 7112, 7190, 7208, 7288, 7414, 7415, 7432, 15014,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 15064,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 15065,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 15066, 15067, 15252, 15254, 15255, 15364, 15408, 15437, 15441,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 15481,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 15486,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 15521, 15541, 15578, 15650, 15655, 15703, 15708, 15728, 15766,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 15793,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 15795,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 15830, 15831, 15832, 15852, 15923, 15975, 15989, 16033, 16034,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 16069,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 16234,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 16342, 16360, 16426, 16480, 16482, 16483, 16485, 16523, 16657,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 16659,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 16845,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 16904, 16907, 17018, 17080, 17263, 17266, 17308
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The first attached file is the v2.1 diff, the second is the v3.1
>>>>>>>>>>>> diff:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (file #12700, file #12701)
>>>>>>>>>>>>      _______________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Additional Item Attachment:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> File name: diff                           Size:192 KB
>>>>>>>>>>>> File name: diff                           Size:356 KB
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>      _______________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Reply to this item at:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>    <http://gna.org/task/?6438>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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