Hi Ed

Thanks for the information about the relative PDB orientation and Euler
angles...

For adding hydrogens to a PDB, I wonder what approach is best so that it
can be used (in relax) for non isotropic relaxation analysis. In other
words, what approach would be best to get good NH vector orientations ?

I have a PDB at 1.95 A resolution and without any hydrogen. I tried two
different approaches to get the hydrogens in a good orientation...

1.
Hydrogens were added inside CHARMM and then a short Langevin
minimization (200 ps) was done.

2.
Hydrogens were added inside CHARMM (as for approach 1) and then a
molecular dynamics simulation was performed (by another PhD student)
with TIP3P water and 3 snapshots were taken at time 10, 12 and 14 ns
(after 2 ns equilibration)... I could take snapshots up to 40 ns, but
they should be equivalent to others...

My questions :

What approach do you think is the best to get good NH orientations ?

Would it be relevant to take different snapshots from MD and use them in
separate relax runs ?

Would you suggest another approach ?


Cheers


Sébastien  :)




Edward d'Auvergne wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The only differences in the analysis should be due to different bond
> orientations.  The PDB reference frame doesn't matter - this will only
> change the values Euler angles of the diffusion tensor and nothing
> else.  So if the same structure exists in two different PDB frames,
> then the difference in the optimised Euler angles will be solely due
> to the rotation between the two structures.  If you were to change the
> PDB frame in any of your files, the final chi-squared value should be
> identical to a non-rotated PDB.  The differences you do see are
> because the relative XH bond orientations in the different structures
> are different.
>
> Regards,
>
> Edward
>
>
>
> On 8/30/07, Sebastien Morin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am doing different tests with the full_analysis.py script, data at
>> three magnetic fields and different PDB structures (taken from MD
>> simulations).
>>
>> I realized that those different structures give rise to different
>> optimization times and also to different chi-squared values for the
>> different diffusion tensors (I have only tried the prolate diffusion
>> tensor).
>>
>> I wonder if the structures need to be processed before giving as inputs
>> for relax. Especially, do the structures need to be centered relative to
>> their inertia tensor (like with the pdbinertia program that one should
>> use prior to model-free analysis using ModelFree).
>>
>> Thanks !
>>
>>
>> Sébastien  :)
>>
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