Sorry, please ignore and refrane from responding to this message.
This one shouldn't have been sent - it's an old message in which all
the technical parts were sent to the relax-devel mailing list.

Regards,

Edward


On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Edward d'Auvergne
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>  This post starts a new thread, but it follows on from the post at
>  https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-users/2008-04/msg00005.html.  The
>  parent of the previous thread is located at
>  https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-users/2008-04/msg00001.html.
>
>
>  On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Sébastien Morin
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  >  Hi,
>  >
>  >  I tried to use the palmer.extract() function, with no real success...
>
>  I have to admit that my Modelfree star format parser is not of very
>  high quality.  It woks if you use the palmer.py sample script, but
>  obviously not in this situation.  Nothing that's not fixable though.
>
>
>  >  I had several error message during my first tries and manage to get rid of
>  > them with a script like :
>  >
>  >  =======================================
>  >
>  >  runs = ['m1', 'm2', 'm3', 'm4', 'm5']
>  >  diff_tensor_Phi = 22.4
>  >  diff_tensor_Theta = -3.49
>  >  diff_tensor_Dratio = 1.22
>  >  diff_tensor_tm = 1.242e-08
>  >
>  >  for name in runs:
>  >      run.create(name, 'mf')
>  >      sequence.read(name, 'sequence')
>  >      diffusion_tensor.init(name, (diff_tensor_tm, diff_tensor_Dratio,
>  > diff_tensor_Theta, diff_tensor_Phi), param_types=2, 
> spheroid_type='prolate',
>  > fixed=1)
>  >      palmer.extract(run=name)
>  >
>  >  name = 'aic'
>  >  run.create(name, 'mf')
>  >  sequence.read(name, 'sequence')
>  >  relax_data.read(name, 'R1', '800', 799.812 * 1e6,
>  > '800_R1.dat_plus_sequence')
>  >  relax_data.read(name, 'R2', '800', 799.812 * 1e6,
>  > '800_R2.dat_plus_sequence')
>  >  relax_data.read(name, 'R1', '600', 599.739 * 1e6,
>  > '600_R1.dat_plus_sequence')
>  >  relax_data.read(name, 'R2', '600', 599.739 * 1e6,
>  > '600_R2.dat_plus_sequence')
>  >  relax_data.read(name, 'NOE', '600', 599.739 * 1e6,
>  > '600_NOE.dat_plus_sequence')
>  >  relax_data.read(name, 'R1', '500', 499.827 * 1e6,
>  > '500_R1.dat_plus_sequence')
>  >  relax_data.read(name, 'R2', '500', 499.827 * 1e6,
>  > '500_R2.dat_plus_sequence')
>  >  relax_data.read(name, 'NOE', '500', 499.827 * 1e6,
>  > '500_NOE.dat_plus_sequence')
>  >  diffusion_tensor.init(name, (diff_tensor_tm, diff_tensor_Dratio,
>  > diff_tensor_Theta, diff_tensor_Phi), param_types=2, 
> spheroid_type='prolate',
>  > fixed=1)
>  >  model_selection(method='AIC', modsel_run=name)
>  >  results.write(run=name, file='results', force=1)
>  >
>  >  =======================================
>
>  It is a little strange that you need to read in the sequence and the
>  relaxation data for the 'aic' run.  If you look at the palmer.py
>  sample script in the exec_stage_2() function, you'll see that none of
>  this is done.  The following should also work:
>
>
>  =======================================
>
>  runs = ['m1', 'm2', 'm3', 'm4', 'm5']
>  diff_tensor_Phi = 22.4
>  diff_tensor_Theta = -3.49
>  diff_tensor_Dratio = 1.22
>  diff_tensor_tm = 1.242e-08
>
>  for name in runs:
>     run.create(name, 'mf')
>     sequence.read(name, 'sequence')
>     diffusion_tensor.init(name, (diff_tensor_tm, diff_tensor_Dratio,
>  diff_tensor_Theta, diff_tensor_Phi), param_types=2,
>  spheroid_type='prolate', fixed=1)
>     palmer.extract(run=name)
>
>  name = 'aic'
>  run.create(name, 'mf')
>  model_selection(method='AIC', modsel_run=name)
>  results.write(run=name, file='results', force=1)
>
>  =======================================
>
>  >  However, there is one problem still present : no model is chosen during 
> AIC
>  > selection... Here is what I get after the command
>  > "model_selection(method='AIC', modsel_run=name)" :
>  >
>  >  =======================================
>  >
>  >  ...
>  >
>  >  Instance 261.
>  >
>  >  Run                  Num_params_(k)       Num_data_sets_(n)    Chi2
>  > Criterion
>  >
>  >  The model from the run None has been selected.
>  >
>  >  ...
>  >
>  >  =======================================
>
>  Is this for all spins?  Maybe running relax with the --debug flag will
>  give more information.
>
>
>  >  It seems the mfout (which are all located in their respective folder : m1,
>  > m2 , m3, m4 and m5) are not loaded properly...
>  >
>  >  Do you have any clue about this issue ?
>
>  Sorry, I don't have any idea.  This will require investigation of the
>  relax data storage object to see what data is loaded from the mfout
>  file, and quite likely a little bit of coding, if you wish to do so.
>  I think the 1.3 line would be best for any changes in this code.
>  Almost all of the user functions you've used here have been updated to
>  the new relax design and the rest should simply involve the removal of
>  the run object from the relevant functions.
>
>
>  >  Also, is there a way of extracting information from a mfout with relax
>  > without inputing any sequence, diffusion tensor, or data..? I thought it
>  > would be possible to use palmer.extract() in a short script like this :
>
>  As of yet, no.  The parser behind palmer.extract() will need to be
>  significantly improved.  The mfout file is STAR (Self Defining Text
>  Archival and Retrieval) formatted.  But the parser for this is very
>  basic and hacky.  If the mfout file is not as expected,
>  palmer.extract() will fail.
>
>  The star format is used in a number of other places as well.  For
>  example I plan to better incorporate relax with the BRMB
>  (http://www.bmrb.wisc.edu) which uses the STAR format.  And CIF files
>  are also STAR formatted.  So, ideally in the end I would like to
>  create a STAR format writer and parser for relax.  Or, if there is a
>  STAR format reader already that is open source and can easily be
>  imported into relax, then bundle that with relax.  As far as I can
>  tell, there is no official python package for reading and writing this
>  format.
>
>  But this will take time and will be very incremental.  So if you would
>  like to update the current code to read more of the mfout file
>  details, please feel free.  This STAR parser part in
>  generic_fns/palmer.py
>
>  >
>  >  =======================================
>  >
>  >  runs = ['m1', 'm2', 'm3', 'm4', 'm5']
>  >
>  >  for name in runs:
>  >      palmer.extract(run=name)
>  >
>  >  name = 'aic'
>  >  run.create(name, 'mf')
>  >  model_selection(method='AIC', modsel_run=name)
>  >  results.write(run=name, file='results', force=1)
>  >
>  >  =======================================
>  >
>  >
>  >  Do you see anything I do wrong ?
>  >
>  >  Thanks !
>  >
>  >
>  >  Séb  :)
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  Edward d'Auvergne wrote:
>  >  Hi,
>  >
>  > This is simple enough to do. The user function palmer.extract() will
>  > extract all the data (well that used by relax) out of Modelfree's
>  > mfout files.
>  >
>  > Regards,
>  >
>  > Edward
>  >
>  >
>  > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 11:41 PM, Sébastien Morin
>  > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  >  Hi,
>  >
>  >  I have different model-free analysis that originated from the program
>  >  ModelFree (with results in a 'mfout' file).
>  >
>  >  I would like to know if there is a way of loading these data to proceed
>  >  to model selection by AIC using relax.
>  >
>  >  I there ain't any way of doing this, I'll turn to the palmer.py script
>  >  and start from the beginning...
>  >
>  >  Thanks !
>  >
>  >
>  >  Sébastien
>  >
>  >
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