It seems a number of distros are planning to provide ongoing support for ConsoleKit. To me, it also seems odd that decisions were made about deprecation and namespace changes without first having more open community discussions amongst a representative group of stakeholders. I appreciate Olav raising this topic, so we can discuss. The distributor-list forum has been too quiet lately, especially considering all the GNOME 3 changes going on and considering the fact that a number of GNOME advisory board representatives have raised concerns about technical leadership in the GNOME community.
I do think this is an example of when significant technical decisions seem to have been in the GNOME community made without good community discussion. GDM is the primary consumer of ConsoleKit, and as a GDM co-maintainer who happens to work for a distro that is a case-study for plans to provide ongoing support for ConsoleKit, I feel that communication has been poor with me. If I feel this way, I imagine others do too. I would have appreciated more discussion on relevant forums like the ConsoleKit or GDM mailing lists. I think I am subscribed to all the relevant mailing list, and there seemed to be no real discussion about this in the 8 months between May, 2011 and January, 2012. It did not seem that the code review in the bug report even really started to happen until just this month. The only documentation links provided in the announcement was a link to a bug report and information that is focused only on Fedora. It seems little effort was even made to provide any documentation to help distros or end-users with this transition. Perhaps my expectations of good documentation for interface changes like deprecation are too high. It seems that the ConsoleKit maintainers made these decisions and the rest of us were just notified. It seems Martin Pitt was made the new ConsoleKit maintainer without a clear understanding of who the stakeholders are. Perhaps my issue is one of expectation. Maybe I should instead expect that this is just how things work and are documented in the GNOME meritocracy? Brian On 01/27/12 03:50 AM, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:11:21AM +0100, Frederic Crozat wrote:Am I the only one concerned by this name change ? I don't see the point at all, just give credentials to Martin (and maybe some Solaris folks like Brian) to maintain the current code on freedesktop, while explaining it is deprecated.FWIW I think this would make more sense. I'm also volunteering helping to keep OpenBSD support in it. I have sereval patches for it that we are currently using; the reason I didn't try to push them is that ConsoleKit was unmaintained. If some folks agree to keep it alive at least a little longer, than I'll be happy to submit my patches.
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