Could this task be a new Gnome Goal?

Maybe we could create a Goal with all the info needed to port applications
to Wayland, highlighting in the wiki the already ported apps.

2013/4/4 Olav Vitters <[email protected]>

> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 02:24:22PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Olav Vitters <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Think we should create an announcement for Wayland.
> > >
> > > Focus on what we plan to deliver and when. What we suggest
> distributions
> > > to do. Give a hint that we really like systemd, but still optional,
> etc.
> > > At same time, small item about non-Linux impact.
> > >
> > > Obviously it would've been better if this email contained a proposal,
> > > but oh well, it does not :P
> > >
> > > Any takers?
> >
> > Sure, makes sense. Shall we wait until after 3.8.0 is out ?
>
>
> -- incomplete email, will finish later --
>
> Subject: GNOME and Wayland
>
> As discussed within the community and decided by the release team, we're
> going to make GNOME work on Wayland. We will ensure everything we
> provide as well as everything we rely on will work under Wayland. This
> means things like GTK+, GNOME as well as freedesktop.org.
>
> Time frame:
>   3.10 (around Sep 2013): trial version
>   3.12 (around Apr 2014): fully featured version
>
> Current status of the 69 GNOME applications:
>   40 working
>   13 crashes at one point
>   6  issues due to clutter
>   5  small issues
>   5  still need to be checked
>
> Steps that will be taken by us:
> - GNOME shell needs to be turned into a Wayland compositor
>   See https://live.gnome.org/Wayland/GnomeShell
> - Finish the Wayland support in GTK+ as well as Clutter
>   This might result in API changes and deprecations. See
>   https://live.gnome.org/Wayland/GTK%2B
> - X dependencies in the desktop infrastructure need to be replaced by
>   Wayland equivalents
>   See https://live.gnome.org/Wayland/Gaps
> - Applications can be ported one-by-one. Porting means finding and
>   removing hidden X dependencies
>   See https://live.gnome.org/Wayland/Applications
> - XXX wtf does this mean - We don't think that a so-called 'system
>   compositor' is a priority, most of what it would give us can be added
>   in other ways, and making system and session compositors work together
>   nicely is tricky
>
> Impact on X applications:
> Wayland will be able to run X application, possibly even with a better
> performance than X itself.
>
> Impact on distributions:
> GDM will be able to launch Wayland as well as X sessions. By 3.12, our
> stack
> XXX - expand
>
> Things currently missing in Wayland:
> - XSettings
> - Idle time
> - Color management
> - Input methods / IBus needs to be ported
> - Various accessibility related support + changes
> - Pointer barriers
> - Wacom tablets
> - Joypad
> - possibly more
>
>
> References:
> 1. https://live.gnome.org/Wayland
> 2. https://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2013-March/msg00087.html
> 3.
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2013-March/msg00059.html
> 4. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=wayland
>
> --
> Regards,
> Olav
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