On Wednesday 07 May 2008 16:04:25 Stefan Böhmann wrote: > Hi, > > I tried to get an overview about the current state of each application in > kdetoys and want to share my cognitions and also I want to make a proposal. > > In short: I think the kdetoys module is dead. > Certainly in need of some love and attention.
> > Most of the 8 applications in kdetoys aren't in a good state. > > 1. kmoon > this applet is dead. cmake doesn't build it since revision 755452 (Jan 1.) > because it is a kicker applet and kicker is dead. Also there is a plasma > based alternative in [1] called luna. > Kill it then. > 2. fifteenapplet > same as kmoon. But there is a plasma based alternative in [1] called > fifteenPuzzle. > Kill it then. > 3. eyesapplet > and the same here. But here I could't find an alternative plasmoid yet. > Maybe you'll find a volunteer to write the plasmoid if you ask on the plasma developers list or on kde-devel? But ... eyesapplet needs to die. > 4. kweather > kweather is something curious. Some parts are ported (kweatherreport and > kweatherservice) but of course the kicker applet itself isn't ported and > isn't build since revision 755452 too. I'm not a regular user of this > application so I can't say if the ported parts are useable without the > applet itself - I do not think so. However, there is also a plasma based > alternative in [2] called weather. > I'm tempted to copy/port the parts needed by the Kontact Weather summary into kdepim. > 5. kworldclock > kworldclock seems to be ok for the moment, but didn't have a maintainer. > Also Henry de Valence works on a new plasma based world clock (see [3]). > So kill this one too. > 6. ktux and 7. amor > No maintainer and as far as I know nobody did work on this applications > since 2006 (besides basic porting/i18n and similar tasks). > Why do we even want ktux? and, if we do, why not in kdeartwork in the screensavers?? I sorta like little amor. so cute :) > 8. kteatime > I ported this application to KDE4 and took care of it since then. > No objections to moving kteatime into kdeutils, if Friedrich is ok with that. Or to extragear. > > So kmoon, fifteenapplet and eyesapplet are dead and should be moved to > tags/unmaintained/4. I think this applies also to kweather. > > I'm not sure how to handle ktux and amor. You can compile and run both. > However both didn't had a maintainer for a long time now and I personally > think their gui looks like a relict from kde 2.0. > > When the new plasma based world clock is ready in time for kde 4.1 also > kworkdclock could be moved to tags/unmaintained/4. But I couldn't find the > plasma applet in the svn repository so I have no idea which state it > currently has. However - I wrote Henry a mail too, to point out this thread > to him. Maybe he can brief us about his work and further plans. > > > But now my real question/proposal: > I don't see any new application for kdetoys. All the shiny new toys (bball > for example) are plasma applets and therefor placed in extragear/plasma or > similar. All (possible) alternatives for the dead (or nearly dead) > applications in kdetoys are also plasma applets. > > On the other hand the only applications with a maintainer in kdetoys > (kteatime) is not only a toy, it's also a utility. > > So the final question is, should we possibly keep kdetoys with only > one "utility"? Or should we move this application(s) to kdeutils or > extragear and remove kdetoys entirely. > > My personal proposal is to move kteatime (and possibly kworldclock) to > extragear and remove the kdetoys module from KDE (i.e. moving it to > tags/unmaintained/4). > > What do you think? > Makes sense to me. And I also like Dirk's idea of a new kdeplasmoids module. _______________________________________________ release-team mailing list [email protected] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team
