On Thursday 13 November 2008 11:38:23 am Torsten Rahn wrote: > Hi, > > > Are there KDE apps that will use Decibel in KDE 4.2? > > We only have a few days before the hard freeze so I don't know that > > any apps will have the time to use Decibel-kde even if it were in > > kdenetwork already. > > The motivation to include decibel-kde now is this: > > With the inclusion of Decibel into KDE 4.2 we want to enable and support > implementation of new IM clients as well as porting of existing ones to > Decibel. Kopete has already chosen Decibel/Telepathy as the way to go and we > want to make sure they can start with parts that are fully part of KDE. > In addition to Kopete there is a spanish group of university colleagues > around > aleixpol, which is applying to do a new IM application from scratch using > Decibel and fully integrating it to KDE under a free sofware contest that's > happening in spain. > > In addition we see activity around a telepathy/qt4 layer and mission > control, Gnome is still strong with regard to this topic. We want to make > sure > we have a visible Decibel implementation, because otherwise further telepathy > will likely not consider any KDE interests. > > It's important to provide and ship the Decibel-KDE libs support soon. You > can't always assume that people will always use trunk to develop with. > I'd claim that most people who develop against KDE 4 these days try to > develop > against the stable version of KDE unless there is a really important API > enhancement in trunk that they need to depend on (and that they need to be > aware of to use it). This is especially true for applications which are more > "specialized" on a topic that doesn't focus on the interaction with the > desktop environment itself. > Shipping the Decibel-KDE libs with KDE 4.2 now would mean that people have a > stable release of a tiny library that comes with their distribution and has > got a stable release. > > Just to address possible concerns with regard to compatibility and stability > of the interfaces: > > The core of decibel is supposed to stay stable, we rather will see > extensions than changes. > The Telepathy/Tapioca part will be changed for KDE 4.3 and will be ported > to the upcoming Telepathy/Qt4 bindings. We were hoping the layer would be > ready to port to earlier, but it still will take more time. However, APIs > are not fundamentally different, so we expect porting changes acceptable. > Most changes will arise from Qt 4.5's DBUS to be asynchronous in contrast > to Qt 4.4. > > > Which apps are using/want to use Decibel? > > Except for Kopete and other IM messaging clients there are possible other > applications which could use Decibel: > > * Marble: Plugin for viewing Presence-Information > * Plasmoid for Presence-Information > * collaborative Editing using Telepathy-Tubes. Decibel is the central place > to > start up applications for incoming channels > * starting/controlling IM from other apps such as addressbook etc. > > Again I'd like to stress that rather providing a stable library as soon as > possible that people can develop against is very important. > > As an example: > If I would have changed Marble in some way that people would have needed to > install trunk in order to develop for Marble I'm pretty sure that Marble > wouldn't even have received half of the development that it got during the > last half year, as several core developers either just use the stable KDE 4.1 > version of the libraries or they just use the last stable Qt only version of > Marble. Many of these people wouldn't compile trunk as the compilation would > cost them the little time they have available for implementing Marble > features. > > For the same reasons I'd strongly suggest to ship the decibel-kde lib rather > early with a stable KDE release. > > As pointed out already we'll have several employees at Basyskom available who > will be able to fix remaining issues as they are found during their working > day > during November, December and in January (Currently Dominik Haumann is > available for this kind of work). >
Of course you can move decibel-kde into kdereview. Then please announce it on k-c-d. Let's see how fast we can get it reviewed. BTW: Urs is the kdenetwork module coordinator and he really should be the person working with you to make this happen. _______________________________________________ release-team mailing list [email protected] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team
