Am Mittwoch, 30. April 2014, 04.20:21 schrieb Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer:
Morning > > >For Ubuntu I can use the Firefox example. So can you explain why is KF5 > > >different than firefox? > > > > Firefox (and Chromium too) are handled like no other packages in the > > archive. It's the best known (to average computer users) FOSS brand. > > There's not much choice but to ship it and given the combination of > > library bundling and the presence of security fixes in essentially every > > release there's no realistic choice but to eat releases whole (despite > > viewing the necessity as being highly distasteful). Canonical has also > > funded significant engineering resources to maintain Ubuntu Firefox > > packages and do extensive regression testing. > > > > None of the above is relevant to KF5. > > > > If I were to ask for the kind of update policy Ubuntu has for Firefox, I > > am pretty sure it would get laughed out of the room. I've gotten > > exceptions approved for quite a number of packages, so I think I have a > > reasonable basis to form an opinion on what's likely to be approved. > > > > The KF5 plan amounts to "Non-rolling distros: you're on your own." > > Debian will be in the exact same position. Firefox and Chromium are just > good examples of what to do to get your downstream unhappy and get your > users non- stable experiences. > > The result will be that we will need to freeze at some point and do our > best to keep up with patches for stable releases. Or maybe even drop KF5 > for stable releases :-/ > > I don't know how other major distros with focus in stability work, but I > think they will be more or less in the same position (I'm thinking in Red > Hat, Centos, Suse and others here, but I might be wrong). I might be to naive but what about something like an LTS for KF5. A branch where all the distros and some KF5 hackers backports fixes and promise to do this for 1, 2 or more years? I even think that other people and groups could be interested in this as e.g. Calligra who seems historically to be more conservative about kdelibs/KF5 minimum requirements... I see Kevin's arguments and the ones of the distros. So maybe finding a middle ground? Best regards Mario _______________________________________________ release-team mailing list release-team@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team