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The United States district Court for the Eastern District of New York yesterday upheld against Establishment Clause challenge school rules which permitted only secular /religious symbols (Menorah, Christmas tree, crescent) but not purely religious ones. The Plaintiffs apparently did not argue that this amounted to the state secularizing Christmas perhaps because the policy allowed teaching about the origins of Christmas. The Court ruled that the exclusion of purely religious symbols was necessary to avoid a violation of the Establishment Clause. I am not sure the establishment clause requires such exclusion. I am also not certain why the secularization argument was not pressed.

The case is on the Eastern District  web site.

Marc Stern

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 6:22 PM
To: 'Law & Religion issues for Law Academics'
Subject: Talking about profanities

 

    I understand the request, but I should say that I (speaking entirely as a mere list member) actually find "f---", "n-----", "the f word", "the n word", and so on to be somewhat grating.  I can't say that I'm deeply offended by these euphemisms; perhaps I am less annoyed by them than those who are upset by "fuck" or "nigger" or the like are upset by them, if such a comparison can sensibly be made.  But I do have a substantial preference for discussions that use the word and not the euphemism.

 

    I certainly don't ask others to adapt their own _expression_ to this preference of mine.  But I can understand that others might share this preference, and therefore why they might insist on using the actual words in their posts.  (Naturally, I'm sure no-one will use these words as epithets aimed at fellow list members or others; I refer here to people discussing the facts of cases, or of hypotheticals.)

 

    Eugene

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From: David W. New [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 3:02 PM
To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics
Subject: Re: "F the Draft"

If there is any way we can drop using the four letter word, or at least not spell it out, I would be very grateful. Thank you. David W. New

 

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