Let me draw attention to Judge DeMoss's concurrence.  Judge DeMoss boldly took 
on the Supreme Court's standing jurisprudence directly, saying that the Court 
"cannot continue to hold expressly that the injury in fact requirement is no 
different for Establishment Clause cases, while it implicitly assumes standing 
in cases where the alleged injury, in a non-Establishment Clause case, would 
not get the plaintiff into the courthouse. This double standard must be 
corrected because . . . it opens the courts' doors to a group of plaintiffs who 
have no complaint other than they dislike any government reference to God."
 
Judge DeMoss continued:
 
"On the basis of the stipulations before us in this case, I would find these 
facts helpful in evaluating injury in fact: this prayer practice has existed 
for thirty years, the school board does not specify or approve the contents of 
any prayer or invocation in advance, and in giving the prayer or invocation, 
the speaker does not purport to speak for, or on behalf of, the school board.  
In my view, the fact that the Does 'take offense' to this prayer practice 
should not constitute an injury in fact for standing purposes."
 
With respect to Judge DeMoss, I have trouble with this standing analysis.  All 
of the facts in the above paragraph certainly go to whether there is a 
constitutional violation.  But they should be irrelevant to standing.  None of 
these facts he cites are about these plaintiffs or their potential standing.  
Judge DeMoss is really saying that there isn't (or shouldn't be) a 
constitutional violation here, and thus no one has suffered an "injury in 
fact," and thus no one has standing to sue.
 
This comes up often in passive display cases.  The defendant argues that a 
passive display is constitutional, and then also throws the argument into the 
standing section of the brief as well -- arguing that merely seeing a display 
simply isn't, as a categorical matter, enough to create an "injury in fact."  
But this is just a disagreement with the Court's current interpretation of the 
Establishment Clause; it really isn't about standing at all.
 
Chris
 
 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:46:03 -0400Subject: Re: Victory 
for prayer in Jesus name?To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Klingenschmitt was well advised 
to put a question mark in his subject line.  Last week's CA5 decision does not 
uphold the constitutionality of the school board's practice.  Rather, the case 
(DOE v. TANGIPAHOA PARISH SCHOOL BOARD, No. 05-30294 (July 25)) was dismissed 
because the plaintiffs had neglected to put in the record any evidence that 
they had attended a school board meeting and had been exposed to the challenged 
prayers; therefore they had not demonstrated that they had standing to sue.  
Any person who has attended a school board meeting and has been exposed to the 
challenged prayers remains free to file a new lawsuit, where the 
constitutionality of the practice will be an open question.  Indeed, the court 
stated "it is not hard to conceive that a more concrete controversy may arise 
in the future."  Whether this decision is "worthy of celebration and 
wide-spread publicity" I leave to the good chaplain's judgment.Art SpitzerACLU 
of the National Capital AreaWashington DCIn a message dated 7/30/07 5:22:49 PM, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

ACLU just lost their case against prayer in Jesus name by Louisiana school 
board. 
http://www.christianpost.com/article/20070727/28638_Judges_Overturn_Ban_on_School_Board_Prayer.htm
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