I think that begs the question, in a sense.  You say, "If he has said
anything about science that is antithetical to sound science, that would be
a fair ground of criticism."  Mr. Collins states that he believes in the
virgin birth.  Is that antithetical to sound science?

I don't really want to get into a religious debate or comment on the
validity of Mr. Collins's specific beleifs.  I want to know when someone's
advocacy of ideas that are antithetical to a profession can be used to
disqualify that person (legally).  You can change the hypothetical if you
want.  A faith-healer that is applying to be Surgeon General?

A

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Douglas Laycock <layco...@umich.edu> wrote:

> The alleged "ideas that are antithetical to the values underlying the job"
> are simply his religion.  Some consider his religion antithetical; he does
> not.  It is not antithetical unless you accept certain other assumptions
> about the relation between religion and science -- assumptions that his
> critics adopt but that he rejects.
>
> If he has said anything about science that is antithetical to sound
> science, that would be a fair ground of criticism.  But if he is sound when
> he talks about science, and the only evidence against him is the inferences
> people draw when he talks about religion, that is simply a religious
> disqualification.
>
>
>
>
>
> Quoting Anthony Decinque <anthony.decin...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Francis Collins has been selected to be the head of NIH, where he will
> have
> > substantial authority to allocate the nation?s scientific research
> funding.
> > There are a few criticisms of Mr. Collins being made regarding his
> religion..
> >
> >
> > For this list, I wanted to set aside a specific criticism.  Specifically,
> > let?s ignore criticisms based on Mr. Collins using his government
> position
> > to promote religion.  (For example, if Mr. Collins were to give a speech,
> as
> > head of the Human Genome Project, claiming that DNA is evidence for God.)
> >
> > Instead, I wanted to get the list?s opinion on a different criticism.
> This
> > criticism goes like this: (1) science is a product of another, deeper,
> more
> > important feature ? skeptical thinking; (2) Mr. Collins does not practice
> > skeptical thinking; (3) in fact, Mr. Collins has made many statements
> > undermining and contradicting skeptical thinking.  Therefore, the
> criticism
> > goes, Mr. Collins should not be the head of NIH because he undermines
> what
> > science is all about.
> >
> > To get a flavor of the criticism, you can read this
> > piece<
> http://www.reasonproject.org/archive/item/the_strange_case_of_francis_collins2/>by<http://www.reasonproject.org/archive/item/the_strange_case_of_francis_collins2/%3Eby>
> > Sam Harris.
> > It is an elaboration of a NY Times editorial Mr. Harris recently
> > authored.  In
> > response, biologist Kenneth Miller wrote in the NY Times that Mr. Harris
> has
> > ?deeply held prejudices against religion? and opposes Mr. Collins merely
> > because ?he is a Christian.?
> >
> > What does the list think?  Should it be acceptable for an employer to
> > discriminate against a job candidate on the grounds that the candidate
> > believes, practices, and advocates for ideas that are antithetical to the
> > values underlying the job?  (Again, assuming that the candidate would not
> > otherwise abuse the post and would generally do a fine administrative
> job.)
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Anthony DeCinque
> >
>
>
>
> Douglas Laycock
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