Lee v. Weisman was not about confusion. It was about actual government 
sponsorship.

 

Douglas Laycock

Robert E. Scott Distinguished Professor of Law

University of Virginia Law School

580 Massie Road

Charlottesville, VA  22903

     434-243-8546

 

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 1:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Establishment Clause, equal access, and confusion

 

The 2d Cir does not disagree with the equal access point, but rather says that 
the School Dist is prohibiting an activity, not expression per se.  In fact, 
prayer, religious instruction, expression of devotion to God, and the singing 
of hymns are not prohibited.  What is excluded is full-scale worship services 
with all that entails.  Worship services are not "student groups", but rather 
collections of adults and children.  

 

If a student group engaging in proselytizing activities a la Rosenberger were 
the equivalent of a worship service, Eugene might be correct.  The 2d Cir. is 
saying that there is no such equivalence here.  

 

On the confusion point, I would think that you are more likely to have 
confusion about government endorsement when a school is transformed into a 
church for a full day each week than when you have a short prayer announced at 
graduation.  Yet, the latter is unconstitutional under Lee v. Weisman.  The 
disclaimer proposal is insufficient to forestall children and everyone else, 
actually, from thinking that P.S. 151 is in fact Evangelical,  or Buddhist, or 
whatever, when it is the worship home for a congregation.    

 

I don't know if you  have noticed, but it is a fact that politicians routinely 
favor their own religion, so it is perfectly reasonable to conclude that a 
school board opening the door to a particular religious group for their most 
important religious activity, worship, is an endorsement of that religious 
group.  And the school board's rejection of a particular religious group's 
application, even if based on neutral principles, also would raise serious 
questions about endorsement. Thus, the prohibition is necessary to avoid an 
Establishment Clause violation.

 

Marci

 

In a message dated 8/15/2011 12:40:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes:

But this possibility that a few people might be confused, even when the 
government makes clear that all it’s offering is equal access – just like the 
equal access offered to religious groups in many contexts, such as tax 
exemptions, the use of GI Bill grants, and so on – doesn’t strike me as reason 
enough to reject equal access.

 

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