I agree with most of what Chip says about hybrid rights and religious 
accommodation of rights protected activity. As a general principle, religious 
people should not receive preferential accommodations when exercising 
fundamental rights such as freedom of speech, or voting, or the right to marry 
or have children.



Where he and I disagree, I think, is that I do not believe that courts protect 
parental control of the upbringing of children as a "right" in the same way 
that they protect speech and other fundamental rights. There is far too much 
discretion exercised by the state in this area of law and far too little rigor 
in the review applied to laws that interfere in one way or another with 
parental prerogatives for me to analogize parental autonomy to a fundamental 
right.



Thus, I do not think that parents have a "right" to provide beer to children 
while watching sporting events on TV as part of a more general liberty interest 
in controlling the upbringing of their children. And I see little reason to 
provide an exemption from laws prohibiting the provision of alcohol to minors 
in this context as a policy matter -- other than the fact that enforcement of a 
no beer for kids rule in family rooms would be intrusive.  I think that 
allowing parents to offer wine to children as part of a religious ceremony is 
different and more defensible because raising one's children as part of a 
religious family is an essential aspect of religious liberty that deserves 
respect and protection.



Put simply, I would want more of a showing that harm exists or is risked before 
I forced parents to violate religious beliefs that involve families and 
children.



Alan

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From: [email protected] [[email protected]] 
on behalf of Ira Lupu [[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 2:44 PM
To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics
Subject: Re: Parental rights and physical conduct

If Smith's "hybrid rights" explanation of Yoder is all there is against my 
argument that religious motivation should add or subtract nothing from parental 
rights to engage in particular child-rearing practices, I'll happily rest my 
case.   All I'm suggesting is that once we have a general set of constitutional 
rights to protect a practice, religious motivation for the practice should add 
or subtract nothing.  The Phelps (in Snyder v. Phelps) would not be on weaker 
First A ground if their obnoxious protests were wholly secular.

The "children's rights" context may be the strongest one for rejecting 
permissive, religion-specific accommodations, because of the third party harms. 
 But it's not the only such context, with or without other enumerated rights in 
the picture (see Texas Monthly).


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