This is an excellent hypothetical.  My own inclination is that the only 
justification for a clergy-penitent privilege is a) if there is a duty to 
confess to a member of the clergy; and b) if the clergy in question believes 
that God will punish disclosure of the confession.  (It shouldn't be enough 
that the doctrine of the religion prevents disclosure unless divine punishment 
is thought to attend it.)   I have argued for some years that the only defense 
of religious privileges is the belief on the part of the claimant that 
commission of the act in question will generate divine sanctions.  This is 
probably too strict, since I (still) support the critique of Smith, and I have 
no reason to believe that the ingestion of peyote was a divine command 
violation of which would generate some kind of punishment (including punishment 
in the world to come).  But Eugene's hypo makes very real the costs to innocent 
third parties of treating any and all members of the clergy differently from 
one's best friends, fellow family members, or even, in most courts, reporters.

sandy

From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu 
[mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 7:39 PM
To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics (religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu)
Subject: The clergy-penitent privilege and burdens on third parties

                One more question about the "unconstitutional burdens on third 
parties" theory:  The clergy-penitent privilege allows the clergy (and 
penitents) to refuse to testify about penitential communications, even when the 
result is that a litigant is deprived of potentially highly probative evidence.

What's more, this is a specifically identifiable litigant who is being denied 
the benefit of applying the normal duty to testify.  And, unlike with the 
conscientious objector exemption, the clergy-penitent exemption is indeed 
limited to religious communications, with no secular philosophical analog.  
(The psychotherapist-patient privilege, I think, is quite different, partly 
because it requires communications to someone who is licensed by the state, 
requires a state-prescribed course of training, and is usually quite expensive, 
and partly because it tends to have fewer exceptions.)

Say, then, there are two people.  Anita works for an employer who (by 
hypothesis) has been exempted from the usually applicable (with some secular 
exemptions) employer mandate as a result of a statutory religious objector 
exemption.  As a result, she doesn't get, say, $500/year worth of contraceptive 
benefits that she would have been legally entitled to but for the employer 
mandate.

Barbara is suing Don Defendant for $500,000.  She has reason to think that Don 
has confessed to Carl Clergyman that Don is indeed liable, so she wants Carl to 
be ordered to testify about the communication.  But Carl has been exempted from 
the usually applicable (with some secular exemptions) duty to testify as a 
result of a statutory clergy-congregant privilege.  As a result, she doesn't 
win the $500,000 that she would have been legally entitled to but for the 
clergy-congregant privilege.

Is the application of the clergy-congregant exemption from the duty to testify 
in Barbara's case an Establishment Clause violation, on the grounds that it 
imposes an excessive burden on Barbara?  And if it isn't, then why would the 
application of the hypothetical exemption from the employer mandate an 
Establishment Clause violation in Anita's case?

Eugene
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