Thanks, Fred! I'm learning a lot from this discussion. You can guess 
what I'm sure.
73
and Thanks again
AC0Y



--- In [email protected], "Fred Flowers" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why don't you holier than thou hams just stuff your spectrum & Coy 
bashing.  He has forgot more about radios than yo'all will ever 
know.  He is doing the best he can with what he has.  Yes the 
spectrum is a POJ.  I wouldn't have one on a bet.  So
> 
> give it a rest.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Virden Clark Beckman
> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 6:28 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communication 
SCR1000 VHFManual]]]
> 
> I am suprised nobody offered to sell the spectrum fixer some 
wingnuts?
> Maybe he already has some or slides with hairpin cotters?  
> 
> JOHN MACKEY wrote:
> >  
> > WOW!!  Coy said he went with the spectrum because of money.  Now 
this
> > offer of a straight trade is one he can't pass up due to the 
money issue!!
> >  
> > "Kevin King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  
> > > If money is your limiting factor. I will trade you a mastr II 
mobile for
> > the
> > > spectrum. Just so I can keep it off the air. I have been the 
recipient of
> > > interference from one of those at a site I use to manage.
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ac0y5 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 11:56 AM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: [Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communication 
SCR1000 VHF
> > > Manual]]
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for the input Tony.
> > > The primary reason that I'm going to try the Spectrum is It's 
what I
> > > can afford now and It's something I havn't ran into before. If 
this
> > > one gives as much trouble as indicated by thoes of you who have
> > > owned them then I'll do something different. But for now it 
sounds
> > > like a challange and it's real cheep -$0.00-. I unexpectedly 
came
> > > into two 2 meter pairs at the same time. Here in Central 
Florida
> > > getting a pair is like finding hens teeth so the first pair 
got the
> > > MASTRII and the second pair will get the Spectrum until I get 
tired
> > > of tweeking it or until I get a replacment, another MASTRII. I 
can
> > > only afford a little at a time.
> > > 73 Tony and Thanks
> > > AC0Y
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], Tony King - W4ZT
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > First let me start out by saying that I currently have an 
SCR1000
> > > in
> > > > service on 2 meters but the Mastr II is cooking on the bench 
and
> > > will
> > > > replace the Spectrum as soon as I finish the box to move the 
CAT-
> > > 1000 into.
> > > >
> > > > At 08:43 PM 11/26/2003, ac0y5 wrote:
> > > > >It seems a lot of the complaints are from oscillator drift 
and
> > > > >tuning drift. I have a few questions Does anyone know if 
the main
> > > > >problem resides in the exciter, or the power amp?
> > > >
> > > > I have replaced the PA in this SCR1000 because the old one
> > > failed.  This is
> > > > a 75 watt model which has the power control board (which 
gives you
> > > high/low
> > > > power switching). The manual tells you that you MUST re-
align the
> > > exciter
> > > > to make it work properly on the reduced voltage.  I always 
found
> > > it to be a
> > > > bit unstable so it always stayed on high power. If you tune 
the
> > > PA, you'll
> > > > find some instability there also. I don't know the answer to 
the
> > > question
> > > > of bad components or bad design. I'd rather stick with what 
I've
> > > got
> > > > personal experience with.
> > > >
> > > > As for oscillator drift, the SCR1000 was available with a 
crystal
> > > oven but
> > > > mine didn't come that way. It's lived its entire life in the 
house
> > > where
> > > > there have been no extremes of heat and cold.  Yet, it would 
still
> > > move
> > > > around some. I did place a small light bulb (in series with a
> > > resistor)
> > > > right in the oscillator portion of the exciter board and it 
seemed
> > > to
> > > > become more stable.
> > > >
> > > > >My plan would
> > > > >eliminate all problems related to the oscillator because 
the Tx
> > > and
> > > > >Rx will be generated from a pair of Numerically Controlled
> > > > >Oscillators well filtered. I have already designed the 
entire
> > > > >circuit. Now, if Anyone knows where the problem may lay 
then I
> > > will
> > > > >be able to take care of the problem an external PA that I 
have or
> > > an
> > > > >exciter that I can buy cheaply. The power supply should be 
okay
> > > >
> > > > I had problems with the power supply.  In the 75 watt model 
the
> > > power
> > > > resistors which are mounted on terminal strips between the
> > > transformer and
> > > > the large heat sink on the back get so hot that they will 
melt
> > > their leads
> > > > right out of the solder. That compounds the problem and led 
to
> > > erosion of a
> > > > resistor lead and supply failure. The entire supply is 
horribly
> > > > inefficient, generating more heat than the entire unit 
consumed in
> > > its
> > > > electronics.  I finally removed the transformer, the 
resistors and
> > > the
> > > > large heat sink with the pass transistors and powered the 
unit
> > > externally.
> > > >
> > > > >and
> > > > >it has been stated that the receiver is quite sensitive. If
> > > > >necessary I can add a 5 or 7 pole helical resonator to the 
front
> > > end.
> > > >
> > > > It's sensitive if you can get it tuned without 
desensitization.
> > > That's the
> > > > biggest problem with the receiver.  It isn't as sharp as
> > > commercial
> > > > receivers like the Mastr II or Micor so don't expect that 
kind of
> > > performance.
> > > >
> > > >  From your many other posts it would appear you have 
considerable
> > > repeater
> > > > experience which makes me wonder why you would want to take 
this
> > > on.  It's
> > > > not a joy to work on.  The controller is junk (I replaced it 
with
> > > a CAT1000
> > > > over a decade ago). It's just old technology that doesn't 
come
> > > close to the
> > > > old technology you find built by GE and Motorola. If you must
> > > redesign the
> > > > oscillators, replace the exciter and PA, redesign/modify the
> > > receiver, come
> > > > up with a controller, perhaps replace the power supply, hope 
the
> > > switches
> > > > aren't intermittent (like some of mine), replace the meters 
(the
> > > originals
> > > > were useless), toss the local microphone and get something 
better,
> > > what's
> > > > left? It WAS a pretty box. I just spent the evening drilling 
a
> > > front panel
> > > > for my new VHF controller box which will contain the 
CAT1000, some
> > > > interface stuff, a TS64, 4-LEDs, a volume control, a squelch
> > > control,
> > > > enable/disable and simulate switches for COR, CTCSS and PTT, 
a
> > > speaker, a
> > > > fuse, and on/off switch, and two test jacks to access the 
speaker
> > > leads
> > > > from the front. It will look and function almost identically 
to
> > > the
> > > > controller (containing a CAT250) that I use with the UHF 
Mastr
> > > II.  The
> > > > Spectrum is going away... finally.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck with your project.  I'd be interested to know how 
it all
> > > works
> > > > out for you.
> > > >
> > > > 73 and Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
> > > >
> > > > Tony W4ZT
> > >
> > >
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