Neil,

As a matter of fact I think you are correct.  I seem to remember something
to that effect.  Was that a part of the settlement with RCA?  Maybe so.

Paul


-----Original Message-----
From: Neil McKie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 11:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Stuff.....



  Paul, I read that.  After looking at the VEETAC Manual I have here,
 I agree with you.

  The message I sent (see below) I wrote a couple of hours before I
 sent it.  Your comment (also below) came in after I had sent mine
 out.

  Correct me if I am wrong, didn't GE finally own the two-way radio
 division of RCA?

  Neil


Paul Finch wrote:
>
> Neil,
>
> As I said in a earlier email, RCA was sued successfully by GE because
> it was so obvious that RCA had copied the GE Master II design.  The
> RCA looked almost exactly like the GE, what was RCA thinking!  RCA
> would never recover and shortly after closed the radio division.
>
> Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil McKie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 10:14 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Stuff.....
>
>   I believe the 1000 was the better known as the ML1000 ML for the
>  RCA plant in Meadowlands.  The 1000 or ML1000 was a larger (higher
>  power version) of the Series 700 radios.
>
>   With this discussion, I finally went out to my garage ... and went
>  looking ... and found the following - all RCA:
>
>   Three ML1000 manuals on 50 and 450 MHz bands.
>
>   A Tac 200 (VEETAC) Fixed Stations manual (SM-8025626-1) 150 MHz
>    (Signed and dated by the late Walt Braunstein, 9/80)
>
>   The RF package (Transmitter/Receiver) at quick glance looks like a
>  Mastr II ... careful study inside parts look like an early Motorola
>  Syntor or 100 watt Mitrek.  Uses a Temperature-Compensated Crystal
>  Oscillator - TCXO that in the picture looks very like a take-off of
>  a GE Integrated Circuit Oscillator Module - ICOM.
>
>   The CTCSS 'Quiet Channel' module is immediately behind the front
>  panel just like the Mastr II.  The antenna relay is a take-off from
>  a Micor.
>
>   The receiver front end helical resonators are soldered to the
>  circuit board.
>
>   The control head looks like a cross between Micor and Mastr II
>  control heads.  Internally looks like a Mitrek control head.
>
>  -----
>
>   I trust there a few folks who fondly remember the earlier RCA gear.
>  For you, I found the following:
>
>   An October 1978 Price Schedule for Replacement Parts and Accessories
>  for RCA Mobile Communications Equipment. (2 copies)
>
>   Advertising poop sheet for VEETAC control head stacking kits.
>
>   Advertising poop sheet for the VEETAC High Band and UHF radios.
>
>   Some TAC300 and TACTEC service info and a photocopied CMU-10A manual.
>
>   Original factory supplied manuals:
>
>     Super Carfone 450-470 mobile station. Remember the instant heating
>        tubes?
>
>     Carfone 450 CSU-15C ... base station used a 5894 in the final.
>
>     Carfone CMV-4 ...  the receiver crystal formula:
>
>                          Channel Freq - 0.915
>          Crystal Freq = ---------------------- = 11.62 - 13.3 Mc
>                                   13
>
>        The first LO crystal was used twice ...
>
>       The receiver was 152-174 MHz ...
>       The first IF was 12/.54 - 14.23 Mc (walking IF)
>       The second IF was 915 Kc
>
>       Used a relay to change channels - the relay contacts switched
>        the crystals ... not crystal oscillators.
>
>     Carfone  Portlable Transmitter-Receiver CTR-1A weighed 44 Lbs.
>
>     Fleetfone CMV-2EL, CMV-3EL, low band, used 1 or 2 807's in the
>       final depending on the power output.
>      I have two copies: one is stamped Mann C & E on the front cover.
>
>     Remember the RCA 'E Line'?  E = Efficiency  CMUE-15A2T
>       with a Joe Olivera signature on the front.
>
>     Super Basefone 25 - 54 MHz, 100 watt
>       written on the front is  Baldwin Hills  (A CHP radio site in
>        the Los Angeles area)
>
>     Remember the FCC required 452-C tags - Transmitter Identification
>      Tags to be stuck to every FCC licensed transmitter?  I have a
>      few of the original RCA labeled 452-C tags.
>
>     Another place in my garage ... you remember the Motorola Service
>      Station peel-off-the-back stickers you stuck on your your service
>      truck?  I have one that says RCA.
>
>   You thought you collect stuff?
>
>   Neil McKie - WA6KLA
>
> Kevin Custer wrote:
> >
> >>>You mean when the GE engineers dissected the Micor to help build the
> >>>Mastr II?
> >>>
> >>>And the chief designer of the M2 was hired away by RCA.  A while
> >>>later a new RCA mobile came out (the name escapes me). The designer
> >>>admitted that it could have been named the Mastr-3 as it was "a
> >>>Mastr II with all the bugs fixed".  This was long before the actual
> >>>GE M3 came out.
> >>>
> >>>Stop by your regional library some time and look in the periodical
> >>>index for the Fortune magazine article abut the rush project the RCA
> >>>mobile radio division had to get the new radio out the door.
> >>>
> >>>I whish I had kept that copy when my dad was a subscriber.
> >>>
> >>>Mike WA6ILQ
> >>>
> >
> > If memory serves me correctly, that would be either the RCA TAC 200
> > and/or RCA 1000 built about 50 miles from my home.  And yes the Chief
> > Design Engineer was taken away from GE's Mobile Radio Division in
> > Lynchburg VA to go work for RCA in Meadowlands (Little Washington)
> > Pennsylvania.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> >





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