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Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 07:57:46 -0500
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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 2508
> There are 7 messages in this issue.
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> Topics in this digest:
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> 1. Alinco 135-435 series radios for remote bases
> From: Robert W Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 2. How to Buy a New Repeater Station: Radio Buying 101
> From: Eric Lemmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 3. Re: How to Buy a New Repeater Station: Radio Buying 101
> From: "Tedd Doda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 4. Re: How to Buy a New Repeater Station: Radio Buying 101
> From: Eric Lemmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 5. Re: How to Buy a New Repeater Station: Radio Buying 101
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 6. Re: How to Buy a New Repeater Station: Radio Buying 101
> From: Eric Lemmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 7. MSR 2000
> From: John Place <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 08:27:30 -0400
> From: Robert W Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Alinco 135-435 series radios for remote bases
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> Has anyone played around with the pin 6 on these radios to see if it
> would except dtmf's direct to change freq.s? It is the remote control
> pin...but not sure what it is looking for....audio or voltages.
> Robert
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 19:25:42 -0700
> From: Eric Lemmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: How to Buy a New Repeater Station: Radio Buying 101
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> I want to share with this list my recent experience in buying a new and
> complete MTR2000 Repeater Station.
>
> One of my Personal Rules is that I never pay "sticker price" for cars or
> anything else. I digress: Several years ago, when I was shopping for a
> sporty car for my wife, I looked at a (then new) 1979 Mazda RX-7 that
> actually had a dealer-applied sticker that was $2,000 ABOVE the factory
> sticker price! When the salesman came out to try to "sell" me on the
> car, I informed him that not only was I NOT going to pay $2,000 above
> the sticker price, I was going to pay about $1,200 BELOW the sticker
> price. We entered into a lot of haggling, in which the Sales Manager
> participated, but I did get my car for about $3,000 below the window
> price- but I got a complete set of Mazda service manuals as part of the
> deal (a $250 value!)
>
> I bring this anecdote up, because I believe that many individuals and
> clubs (apparently) pay whatever the ONE dealer quotes them for
> commercial-grade repeaters. I use a different tack. I put together a
> specific list of equipment I require, and I ask several dealers to
> submit a quote for EXACTLY the equipment I specified, inclusive of all
> taxes and shipping charges. There is no room whatsoever for add-ins,
> options, and hidden charges.
>
> When I recently sent out an RFQ (Request for Quotation) for a
> T5544/T5766 MTR2000 Repeater Station to six different Motorola dealers,
> I received quotes ranging from $3923 to $5150. That's a range of
> $1,200! One of the dealers had the gall to claim that his quote was
> "highly competitive." NOT! His quote was among the highest, and at a
> level I consider to be gouging. I have no doubt that some individuals
> and clubs will pay this guy whatever he asks, and if these shoppers
> don't have the common sense to shop around, they deserve to be gouged.
>
> If and when you or your club decides to purchase a new commercial-grade
> repeater, make these dealers fight for your business! I know that the
> dealers who do a few million bucks a month in radio sales can afford to
> give you a low-margin bid, but any dealer who wants to BUILD his or her
> business must seek out low-margin sales in order to achieve that
> status. Moreover, don't feel that you have to keep some shyster in
> business!
>
> I always include Houston Communications and Delmmar Communications in
> any RFQ I issue. Not surprisingly, one or the other of these two
> companies get most of my business. DISCLAIMER: I have no financial
> connection to either of these companies; I am merely a satisfied
> customer of both.
>
> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 22:43:44 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "Tedd Doda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: How to Buy a New Repeater Station: Radio Buying 101
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> On Sun, 09 May 2004 19:25:42 -0700, Eric Lemmon wrote:
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> >I put together a
> >specific list of equipment I require, and I ask several dealers to
> >submit a quote for EXACTLY the equipment I specified, inclusive of all
> >taxes and shipping charges.
>
> Funny, I do the same thing with cars.
>
> My first was a '78 Mustang which I still have. Called
> 6 dealers, 3 local and 3 in Toronto. One of the dealers
> in Toronto got the deal by a margin of 3 or 4 hundred
> dollars. Doesn't sound like much but the NEW Mustang
> "only" cost me $4200 back in '78 :)
>
> It works for a lot of things.
>
>
>
> Tedd Doda, VE3TJD
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> Lazer Audio and Electronics
> Baden, Ontario, Cana
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 19:48:43 -0700
> From: Eric Lemmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: How to Buy a New Repeater Station: Radio Buying 101
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> Tedd,
>
> Thanks for the vote of confidence, and congratulations on your success
> in car shopping!
>
> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
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> Tedd Doda wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 09 May 2004 19:25:42 -0700, Eric Lemmon wrote:
> >
> > >I put together a
> > >specific list of equipment I require, and I ask several dealers to
> > >submit a quote for EXACTLY the equipment I specified, inclusive of all
> > >taxes and shipping charges.
> >
> > Funny, I do the same thing with cars.
> >
> > My first was a '78 Mustang which I still have. Called
> > 6 dealers, 3 local and 3 in Toronto. One of the dealers
> > in Toronto got the deal by a margin of 3 or 4 hundred
> > dollars. Doesn't sound like much but the NEW Mustang
> > "only" cost me $4200 back in '78 :)
> >
> > It works for a lot of things.
> >
> > Tedd Doda, VE3TJD
> >
> > Lazer Audio and Electronics
> > Baden, Ontario, Cana
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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> >
> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 23:31:34 EDT
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: How to Buy a New Repeater Station: Radio Buying 101
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> As a former Motorola dealer employee, and a government purchaser of radios,
> I
> also found the same to be true. I bought a HT from the dealership as an
> employee (part-time). I liked the radio so much, I placed an order for 12
> more for
> my fire department. The difference in price was several hundred dollars. I
> obtained bids from 2 other dealers, as the projected expense required it
> under
> the city rules. As a part-time employee, I bought the city radios from a
> competitor, at a savings of $100+ each. This was not a closed bid deal, and
> my
> employer was given the chance to match the price, but declined.
>
> On another note, I went shopping in 1994 for a Pontiac Sunbird. The
> model/option combination was found via the vehicle locator system, and the
> dealership
> would not budge on their price. I was able to read the name of the dealer
> that
> actually had the vehicle and drive the 70 miles to it. I bought it there,
> for
> a savings of $1400. This was not a similar car, but the exact same car!
>
>
> Chris Wilkie
> W1LKE
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 20:39:37 -0700
> From: Eric Lemmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: How to Buy a New Repeater Station: Radio Buying 101
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> Chris,
>
> You have given credence to what has been a little-known "dirty secret."
> Thank you for adding a vote for consumer awareness in the marketplace.
> Caveat Emptor!
>
> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 00:21:26 -0400
> From: John Place <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: MSR 2000
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> Does anyone have the tuning info online that can be downloaded?
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