There are extremely nice battery chargers well suited for 
applications like repeaters.  I have used two from a company called 
XANTREX.  I have an older model that I use in my communication van to 
charge two batteries (it has dual outputs).  The one I use with one 
of my repeaters is the true charge 20i.  The true charge 20i can 
source 20A continuous.  It provides a float voltage normally and its 
voltage can be temperature comensated while in float.  There are 
settings for "gel cell" and normal lead acid batteries.  The charger 
provides a slightly higher voltage (open-circuit voltage)when 
bringing back a discharged battery much like an suto system.  A 
microprocessor controls the timing of the charge cycle.  I get much 
better life of the backup batteries with this charge system than I 
got with standard chargers.  These are built for marine apps and are 
pretty rugged.  There are many other brands.  This model, while PWM 
based, seems pretty quite.  I have a TS440 remote base running from 
the battery which does not hear any PWM hash.

Your mileage may vary  Good Luck es 73  Ed K3SWJ

--- In [email protected], Steve Rodgers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> What you need is not a power supply, but a battery charger. As I 
mentioned
> in my prior post, you need to have a way to set the current limit 
so that
> you don't overload the power supply. Battery chargers are designed 
to
> do this. Also you need to make sure the terminal charge voltage on 
the battery 
> charger is set correctly (usually 13.65V for lead/acid battery 
tech). 
> 
> Another problem with the Astron is that you risk blowing out the 
voltage
> regulator if AC power is lost and power is back-fed into the power 
supply
> from the battery system. If you want to use an Astron supply to 
charge
> your batteries, get a large schottky diode and put it in series 
with the
> + output to protect the supply, then adjust the output voltage of 
the supply 
> to compensate. As mentioned earlier you will still need to lower 
the current 
> limit on a larger Astron supply such as the RM-60M and RS-70M as 
the battery 
> will draw the maximum current all the way to the foldback limit of 
the power 
> supply. 
> 
> 
> Steve
> WA6ZFT
> 
> 
> 
> On Sunday 26 September 2004 22:09, Steve Grantham wrote:
> > Well... I have noticed that there are some RS-35M's out there 
that are
> > "heavier-duty" than others.  I have one with a heavier heatsink, 
larger
> > xfmr, stud-type SCR, and an extra filter cap.  I guess they must 
have
> > started making them cheaper since...
> >
> > I am running a 40 Amp charge controller.  Therefore, I believe I 
need a PS
> > that will run cool and current limit at 35 or 40 Amps so I can 
get out of
> > current limiting faster when recovering from a state of discharge 
after an
> > AC power failure.  Which model(s) would that fit?  (Time to go 
search the
> > web...)
> >
> > Steve
> > AA5SG
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steve Rodgers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 10:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] BIG battery & Astron current limit
> >
> > > One thinkng I forgot to mention: Batteries should be charged 
from a
> >
> > current
> >
> > > source. What this means is the maximum charge current should be 
limited
> > > to protect the power supply. I would call Astron and ask them 
how to 
> > > modify
> >
> > the
> >
> > > RM35M so it starts folding back at 15A instead of its default 
of 35A.
> > > Your power supply will thank you for it.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > > WA6ZFT
> > >
> > > On Sunday 26 September 2004 20:20, Steve Rodgers wrote:
> > > > The question should be how long before the Astron RS-35M 
burns up
> >
> > running
> >
> > > > at 34A? The power supply is rated for 25A continuous duty, 35A
> >
> > intermittent
> >
> > > > duty.  I don't like running mine north of 15A continuous 
without a fan.
> > > > This is the weakness with the Astron supplies. If you load 
them up to
> >
> > rated
> >
> > > > output they run very hot. If you are planning on running 35A
> > > > continuous, I'd get an RM-60 or an RS-70.
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > > WA6ZFT
> > > >
> > > > On Sunday 26 September 2004 20:01, Steve Grantham wrote:
> > > > > How long would the RS-35M run in current limit at 34 Amps?  
(This is
> > > > > about 97%.)
> > > > >
> > > > > I have noticed that the internal ammeter sometimes lacks 
good
> > > > > calibration. As measured on a quality manufactured shunt, 
34 Amps
> > > > > pegs out the panel ammeter on the RS-35M, which indicates 
40 Amps
> > > > > Max.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone have experience with this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve
> > > > > AA5SG
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------
---------
> > >
> > > > >-- -----
> > > > >
> > > > > The below quoted from:
> > > > > http://www.repeater-builder.com/astron/astron-
rsbattmod.html A couple
> >
> > of
> >
> > > > > additional comments presented by  Joe Montierth ....
> > > > > One, the 10K resistor can be 1/4 watt or even 1/8 watt, the 
1/2 watt
> >
> > is
> >
> > > > > overkill. There is not much voltage across it to generate 
any heat.
> > > > >
> > > > > Two, depending on the size battery it is attached to, you 
might want
> >
> > to
> >
> > > > > reduce the current limit point on the Astron. The 35 amp 
Astron will
> > > > > current limit somewhat above the 35 amp point, maybe around 
37-39
> >
> > amps.
> >
> > > > > If you have it attached to a BIG battery, it can run 
several hours at
> >
> > the
> >
> > > > > current limit, and burn itself out. If you parallel R4 with 
a 1K pot,
> >
> > you
> >
> > > > > can adjust the current limit to a point less than 38 amps, 
usually
> >
> > about
> >
> > > > > 70-80% of the power supply rating is good.
> > > > >
> > > > > Three, always turn the PS "on" before attaching it to the 
battery.
> >
> > This
> >
> > > > > will keep the internal caps charged up, so they don't have 
to
> > > > > suddenly charge through the pass transistors on the Astron.
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >





 
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