I work right next to a small Airport thats really interesting to the East a
Tower has Red & Strobes, the path for the runway they had to chop trees for
that 100 to 1 ratio, and whats going to happen next Engineers are planning
on building a new facility widening the area, in 2007-2008 ,  the job I have
for that location is private contract, owner is the State of Michigan , over
2 1/2 years of squabbles, between land buying from the Airport for a helipad
& trading deals for a sewer line.

What fun of watching planes take off and land, thats the immediate
attraction.

MH
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Grantham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Painting and Lighting


> I think the old FCC Form 610 asked if you were within 4 miles of the
closest
> point of a runway.  I can't say that I recall whether it was statute or
> nautical though.  I guess I'll go look at a new application form, and see
> what it says.  I'm no pilot, but this would seem to mean there would be a
> symetrical oval around a single runway airport using a 4-mile radius where
> aircraft might be flying lower and slower in an approach or other type
> pattern.  Schools, homes, gas stations, restaurants, and grocery stores..
> all could easily be within 4-miles of an airport.  Around here, some of
the
> higher ground along the ridge is unavailable for tower construction
because
> they built an airport about four miles or less away in the valley below
> decades ago.  There are places I'd love to put up a 190-foot tower for a
> repeater antenna.  Heck!  Pine trees grow 70 or 80-feet around here in
> places where you can't put up a tower.  Lots of aircraft fly low, and then
> there are those special people who fly the ultra-lights..
>
> SG
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Holman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 3:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Painting and Lighting
>
>
> > Yeah;
> >          Thats something that was never mentioned in any ham radio
exams.
> > maybe someone should submit an article to the ARRL for the QST Mag.
> >
> > MH
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steve Grantham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 7:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Painting and Lighting
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Visit with a friendly pilot and look at some of those nice
publications
> > the
> > > FAA puts out that shows the patterns to fly around individual
airports.
> A
> > > friend showed me some of these a while back.  With figure-8s, ovals,
> > > symetrical, and non-symetrical patterns, and considering any unique
> > terrain
> > > features, it seems to be no wonder they have to do "studies" on each
> > > individual application for construction.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Paul Finch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 8:56 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Painting and Lighting
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Did I mention this tower is going to be 4 miles due West of the
South
> > end
> > > of
> > > > the runway, in other misspelled words, perpendicular to the runway.
> > Thank
> > > > God for spel chek!
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 9:05 PM
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Painting and Lighting
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Paul Finch wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 20 feet, seems kinda crazy to me but that's the Government for ya!
> > > >
> > > > Yep. They probably went by the slide slope (or whatever the other
side
> > > > of that is called - the rise slope?) and it came out to 190 feet at
> that
> > > > distance.
> > > >
> > > > > They also required that it have red lights at
> > > > > night as well as being painted!
> > > >
> > > > Being painted has nothing to do with the night lighting. It only
> > > > pertains to daytime - paint or lit. There are some that are both,
but
> > > > only because the owners decided it was better to light it and forget
> > > > maintenance on the paint, so the paint is faded below standard. But,
> as
> > > > long as it's lit, it doesn't matter.
> > > >
> > > > There certainly are cases where even below 200' the regulations
apply.
> > > >
> > > > It's funny to see a power tower painted and lit while others on the
> same
> > > > line, even higher in elevation, do not have to be. Same with water
> > > > towers - the orange and white checkerboards are a hoot.
> > > >
> > > > Joe M.
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