Eric,   would you consider putting this info on the repeater builders web
page...?

If that is not possible I'd like to have a copy ....thanks...

John VE3AMZ


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eric Lemmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help with circulator specs


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| Joe,
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| Actually, it's the opposite.  The return loss will be maximum (highest
| numerically) at the operating frequency, meaning that the minimum energy
| is being reflected.  It can be confusing to describe, because a proper
| tuning of a circulator involves reversing the input and output for
| making some tuning adjustments, and this reverses the readings.  One of
| the best procedures for adjusting a circulator is published by
| Sinclair.  I am sending you a copy in PDF.
|
| 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
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| Joe Ciarcia wrote:
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| > Eric thanks. If I looked at return loss, would the circulator operating
| > frequency be determined by the lowest return loss?
| >
| > Joe
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| > At 03:01 PM 11/21/2004, you wrote:
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| > >Joe,
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| > >I suspect that RJ Communications is no longer in business, so finding
| > >tech data on that circulator may be difficult.
| > >
| > >The typical ferrite circulator doesn't dissipate much power itself;
it's
| > >the load(s) attached to the reject port that determines its power
| > >rating.
| > >
| > >It's important that a circulator be correctly tuned to operate
| > >efficiently.  The label 140-180 MHz refers to the range of that
| > >particular design, and should not be taken to mean that it will work at
| > >any frequency in that range.  Nearly all of the circulators I have
taken
| > >out of service from the 152 MHz band would not tune more than 2 MHz
| > >either side of the frequency marked on the unit.  I had to send them
| > >back to the manufacturer to be reworked for operation on the 2m band.
| > >This rework involved an exchange of magnets, pole pieces, and a new
| > >garnet ground to a specific tolerance.
| > >
| > >A network analyzer is a must for tuning a circulator, especially a dual
| > >circulator, since some measurements look for transmission peaks while
| > >others look for return-loss peaks.  A spectrum analyzer will not
suffice
| > >for this tuning task, unless it is used with a return-loss bridge.
| > >
| > >73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
| > >
| > >Joe Ciarcia wrote:
| > > >
| > > > I have a circulator from RJ Communications Products Inc
| > > > of Scottsdale, AZ. It's a model HC-152. It also has a logo
| > > > on it marked IJ. It has a marking tape on it which indicates
| > > > that the freq coverage is 140-180 MC. Can anyone confirm this
| > > > and know what the power rating might be?
| > > >
| > > > Thanks, Joe
| > > >
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