On Nov 19, 2004, at 4:57 AM, Josh Keller wrote:

> My Search & Rescue unit has a couple of Motorola CDM-1250 mobile
> radios that I've been asked to turn into a link repeater. One

Two comments Josh, from long experience with SAR groups.

a) Mobile rigs do not make properly built repeaters.  SAR = Someone's 
life is on the line.  Don't do this.  If a couple of mobiles and a 
lashed-together RICK in a beat up plastic box are what your field teams 
are relying on - they'd at least better know that.  Tell them your 
little "repeater" is barely better than a toy before they call for help 
through it.

(I'm sorry to be harsh, but read below for more of the reasoning why.)

b) Rarely is a SAR group in an area long enough to deploy a portable 
repeater in any fashion where a couple of people with 50W mobiles and 
good antennas can't handle the communications needed.  And you lose the 
risk and liability exposure of #a above.

And I guess a third comment:

c) If this is for a permanent repeater link - using mobiles and RICK is 
even worse than #a.  Just don't do it.  Everyone knows budgets are 
tight, but watching a mobile melt down right when the furball really 
gets flying on a bad day in the SAR biz that's your only link 
transmitter will make you a believer in "do it right the first time, or 
tell the boss he needs to pony up a budget that works".  Yes I know you 
can turn the power back - if it's a properly engineered system with 
plenty of link-fade margin and good antennas and you can do it with a 
mobile, fine... but if not and it needs to be a 10-30W link... buy 
radios designed for the backbone.

That's my thoughts on SAR repeaters.  Good luck with it if you really 
need the portable box.  I understand there are useful purposes for 
them, but I can't stand it when I see a couple of mobiles lashed 
together in a temporary box and it's supposed to be my primary way to 
reach help from the back-country.  NO THANKS.

I know I'm making a lot of assumptions here, but I see bad engineering 
far too often on radio lash-ups that are supposedly carrying primary 
health and welfare traffic.  Not a good thing to have your name on, if 
you're the designer/technician.  It's a good way to accidentally test 
out how good your liability insurance is after someone's hurt.

Sometimes quick lash-ups last for years and years on a hill somewhere 
and people get used to them and start planning on them being there.  
They do their risk analysis of who to send searching in a particular 
area (by themselves? not by themselves? etc.) by what they BELIEVE to 
be the communications capabilities from that location -- and five years 
down the road no one remembers that the silly thing is a couple of 
cheap mobiles lashed together in a box with a car battery... they just 
figure it's a full-blown repeater.  No matter how many times you tell 
them otherwise.

For hams... sure, slap stuff together.   For SAR -- no.  Not worth the 
headache or possible problems...

Nate WY0X





 
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