I had a QSO with a ham who went to this 802.11 and dropped his DSL or dial up, he had mentioned something about gain increase with a beam antenna just to get in .. weather the company for that area selling the access had set this up I have no clue.
I think the FCC has other Big Fish to fry like Nextel vs. BAS rebanding , and a few other Big Name Businesses who have bigger wallets, and K1MAN and other things we all know ! Mark Holman AB8RU Happy Holidays ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wade Lake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 9:51 PM Subject: Re: 4-wire E&M + VoIP (was: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Remote Receiver > > Not that I am sticking up for rule breakers or anything, but I doubt > the FCC has the manpower to go after 802.11 offenders. It's basically > like > with CB anymore. If you are not causing major problems for a lot of > folks, > they arent going to look your way. > > That being said, I believe in careful compliance to the rules. The > Part 15 rules are not as straight forward as a maximum ERP. They allow 1 > watt with a 6dBi gain antenna and they require a reduction in power, a dB > of > power for a dB of antenna gain, for omni antennas that have more than 6dBi > of gain. For directional antennas running point to point, they require a > reduction of 1dB in power for every 3 dBi of antenna gain over the allowed > 6dBi. This becomes a little confusing but it means that when you account > for cable losses, most point to point setups running a 1/2 wat or 1 watt > amp > with the grid-dish type antennas and yagis, are in the clear. > > Wade - KR7K > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Perryman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 2:59 PM > Subject: RE: 4-wire E&M + VoIP (was: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Remote > Receiver > > >> >> I realize this is a "rules thing"... pardon my momentary digression.... >> >> Please keep in mind that the power limitation for those part 15 devices >> is >> ERP... not TPO. Lots of folks with high gain antennas and amplifiers on >> their houses are in violation... hope they don't get caught. >> Seems the Commission has been on an enforcement (revenue) binge lately.. > no >> slack given. >> >> 73's >> Mike Perryman >> www.k5jmp.us >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bob Dengler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 4:51 PM >> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: Re: 4-wire E&M + VoIP (was: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Remote >> Receiver >> >> >> >> At 12/8/2004 12:40 PM, you wrote: >> >> >Steve Rodgers wrote: >> > >> > >Nate, >> > > >> > >Why not use a full duplex RF link to your data center? That way you >> could >> > >have "dumb" hardware at the site, and all your smarts at the data >> > center. You >> > >could also avoid paying for a DSL connection at the site as well. >> > > >> > >Steve >> > >WA6ZFT >> > > >> > > >> >Ah, a number of reasons. >> > >> >Commercial sites you pay by the antenna, but there's more often than not >> >at least one TCP/IP pipe that someone already pays for at most >> >commercial sites now that an appropriate deal can be made to ride along >> >on, and some really fat shared pipes available at some. >> > >> >Simplicity - maintaining a cheap IAXy device (throw it away if it >> >breaks) is better than messing with multiple link radios, feedlines, >> >antennas, etc. Put the redundancy in the data network instead. >> > >> >Why? If you put your own IP pipes in, you can do other things with >> >them... it's more "universally useful" than a dedicated link radio to do >> >other "stuff" with at the sites... remote monitoring, reprogramming, run >> >club servers, remote power switching, etc etc etc... and >> >what-have-you... lots of uses only limited by imagination -- a dedicated >> >link radio is a one-hit wonder. >> >> ...and if internet isn't available at the site, how about using 802.11b >> or >> a to bring it in? I've yet with play with that stuff, but it sounds to >> me >> like a pair of gain antennas at each end could get you a couple of miles > to >> where you would have wired internet access. Anyone try this? >> >> Bob NO6B >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
