Kevin, with regard to your DTMF "Falsing"....what decoder chip is being used?
If it is a Mitel 8870, you need to change the "Guard Time" to add more delay before decoding.
40 ms is the normal setting but that is often too fast for regular voice.
 
There is an 8870 C   and an  8870 D chip.  The "C" version will accept up to 6 db of positive
or negative twist and the "D" version is good up to 8 db of twist.
 
Also check the level that you are sending to the chip,  it will work from   - 29 to +1 dbm.
-10 dbm is a good setting to use. Too much level will cause falsing as well. Several years ago
we had one lady in our area that could "talk" the repeater off....we were using a three
digit on - off code at the time.  If she talked in a normal soft voice there was no problem
but as soon as she got excited, and raised her voice, the repeater would have problems.
 
Another approach is to use a separate CTCSS tone to access the DTMF decoder and that way it
will remain "Silent" until the proper CTCSS tone is used as part of the access code.
 
 
73  John  VE3AMZ
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 600 - 10k ohm Interface

Thanks everyone, I think I have a number of ideas to try.
The unit has a transformer inside, 600/600ohm, the output is floating, so live and ground should be able to be connected across the output. The TX has the same transformer 600/600ohm, but the controller to the TX is a 600ohm line anyway, so it should be fine (by my understanding)
For those interested the units are Tait Repeater modules.
 
The reason for the request, was the matching, and also I have one receiver that has bag DTMF twist, falsing. Unable to use DMTF blanking, as it does it so much with voices. Have setup the radio/controller as required, and tested. Thought a impedance mis-match.
 
Regards
 
Kevin.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 600 - 10k ohm Interface

Kevin,  I just built one here for our Church for a DVD player, "Stereo" to an 10 K input
on a "Mono" amp.
 
You can use half of what I did......
 
From the 600 ohm OP put a 4.7K resistor to the top of a 5 K trim pot.
The bottom of the trim pot goes to ground.
 
From the centre of the trim pot put a 4.7 K resistor to the 10 K input.
 
Adjust the pot for the desired level going in to the 10 K input and it works very well.
 
 
Since you are using resistors there is no freq. roll off.  A 600 to 10K transformer
would also do but they are expensive these days for anything that is quality....
 
73  John VE3AMZ
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 6:14 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 600 - 10k ohm Interface

Hi All,
 
I need a simple interface for a 600 ohm output radio to a controller which accepts 10k ohm.
This is a RX not TX.
 
I don't want to make a circuit board if I don't need to.
 
Any ideas?
 
Regards
 
Kevin.
 


























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