--- "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Mathew Quaife wrote: > > > I generally don't get involved in online > dicussions such as this, but I will > > have to concur on what Russ said, as I personally > called the FCC field > > office about this matter about five months ago, > and what I was told is that > > there is no mobile that is acceptable to be > converted as a base repeater. > > They would not give any model numbers as such, > generalized it as mobile > > radios. I tried to get them to commit to what > could be used, and they would > > not elaborate on that either, just stated that it > had to be originally Part > > 95 certified. I as well wanted to convert a micor > to use on GMRS as a > > freebie for the public, and was told that it in no > way could be used. If I > > search my archives, I might be able to find the > original email that I sent > > to them before I called there office to confirm. > In actual, the FCC would > > not talk to me, they forwarded my call to a help > center that dealt with it > > directly. Kinda made me feel that they did not > have time for me. However > > they was willing to help me get the license if I > had my credit card ready. > > Tis what I was told, for what it is worth. > > > > Mathew > > This is why you NEVER call the FCC asking if > something is legal-they > will virtually ALWAYS tell you it's not. It's called > CYA, and as a gov't > agency, they live by it. > -- > Jim Barbour > WD8CHL > You probably can't get the same right answer from two or more FCC people that you talk to on the phone. You are just as likely to get the wrong answer, since you probably know more about the rules than they do. Just because it's the FCC on the phone doesn't make it right. A few weeks ago, a fellow on our GMRS forum called the FCC to complain about unlicensed operation on GMRS channels. The lady there referred him to the "frequency coordinator" PCIA. http://www.popularwireless.com/ubb/Forum15/HTML/000482.html That being said, there is nothing in the certification grant from the FCC that certifies one radio as a "repeater" and another as a "mobile", the grants can look virtually identical. Here are a few examples: Repeaters: Vertex VXR-5000 UHF repeater K66VXR-5000U Kenwood TKR-820 UHF repeater ALH9TKTKR-820-1 Mobiles: Kenwood TK-830 UHF ALHTK830G-1 Kenwood TK-860 UHF ALHTK-860-1 Handheld: Maxon SP-200 UHF F3JSP200U2 Those of you who know how to look up FCC ID numbers can view the grants on these radios, and see that they are virtually identical, except for power out. The FCC certifies radios for a particular rule part, such as part 90, 95, 95A, etc, not for the application that the radio will be used in. That is how these manufacturers can take two "mobiles" and use them as a repeater. Re: Micor/MII debate. The FCC OET website doesn't have any equipment listed (for any service) that was certificated prior to 1981. Since the MII and Micor were both produced in the 70's, it would stand to reason that they will not appear on an FCC list of approved radios. It is widely known that the MII and Micor were both used in GMRS applications from their introduction and on to today. To my knowledge, there has been no de-certification of these radios for part 90, some communities are still using tham, yet they won't be found in the OET database, since they don't have a "new" FCC ID number. The technical regulations regarding certification standards have not changed (for these radios), therefore one would have to assume that they are still legal to use in any application that they were legal for when manufactured. What does this mean? Use your own best judgement in using these radios, use them if you want to, or not if you don't want. Joe __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
