> > Do crystals vary in the amount of random phase noise 
> > produced in or by a typical crystal oscillator / FM 
> > modulator circuit as used in a typical repeater 
> > transmitter? 

> > Do  crystals vary in produced FM (phase) noise. 

Yes, but I would not label the noise as phase noise.

> If the answer is yes, Which crystal manufactures 
> make quiet crystals 

Crystals within the same mfgrs shipment can often 
differ quite a bit. Most all mfgrs make high spec 
crystals.  When you depart the most common mfgrs 
specs, you wallet goes along for the ride. 

> > and just how does one insure that he gets this 
> > need across to a crystal supplier?

You would have to spec a specific crystal type or 
design cut / application, costing a more money. 

Practical options are trying multiple combinations 
of different channel elements and crystals in the 
same circuit. 

I've not found the mentioned noise floor to be a big 
problem when <200Hz.  In high spec applications, the 
easy fix is to order multiple xtals and place them 
in different lot channel elements. Most of the time, 
the xtal - channel element combination works just 
fine.  

There is a typical 1 out of 10 or 15 tx packages, 
which seems to have a relative higher noise level. 

Sometimes moving the xtal to a different element 
works... sometimes it doesn't.  I have also seen 
various brand channel elements, which seem to be 
more problematic than others. 

If you're bothered by the amount of the noise, 
simply order and try a second xtal/channel element 
package. I've never had to go past a second try. 

cheers

skipp025 at yahoo.com 







 
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