Since the system is not a coordinated repeater, it has nothing to do with the
coordination coucil.  At least one OO did speak with the licensee.  There were
several discussion about this within the OO ranks.

------ Original Message ------
Received: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:02:45 PM CST
From: "Mark Holman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem 
frompager transmitters

> 
> Something like that should be passed along to the Repeater Council or the 
> Official Observer  to see if they can talk to this individual. unless he 
> wants to be famous in the ARRL web site with a letter from the FCC or 
> something.
> 
> I can't offer any other solution.
> 
> Mark Holman  AB8RU
> ***  IT Student *****
> Happy Holidays
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> To: <Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 5:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem 
> frompager transmitters
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> >
> > It sure is - a mess, that is. Repeated offers to the guy to offer help 
> > with
> > a Service Monitor, etc. have gone rejected. He's using a ham dual-bander
> > mobile radio at a high-level site, and some of the garbage noise has 
> > caused
> > one of the main local 2-Meter Portland Repeaters to kerchunk continually
> > whenever the IRLP or Echolink (or whatever it's called) "system" keys up.
> > It's also tied up one of the main local 2-Meter simplex channels that was
> > normally designated for many years as a "Remote Base to Remote Base"
> > channel.
> >
> > What some people won't do just to be a "Repeater Owner".....
> >
> > LJ
> >
> >
> >
> > Original Message:
> > -----------------
> > From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:12:06 -0600
> > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem
> > frompager transmitters
> >
> >
> >
> > Sounds like a similar problem here in Portland, Oregon.
> >
> > We have a guy running an IRLP node here on what is commonly thought of as

> > 2
> > meter simplex frequencies.  The station is on a broadcast tower with high
> > elevation running about 375 watts ERP!!!  Mobiles 100 miles away can 
> > clearly
> > hear the IRLP node!!  The IRLP node is made from amateur grade RF
> > equipement &
> > has had SEVERAL problems with causing interference with the inputs of 
> > other
> > repeaters in the area.  Attempting to talk to the owner & suggesting he 
> > put
> > sharp cavity filters on the transmitter resulted in his reply of "then I
> > wouldn't be able to be frequency agile".
> >
> > Meanwhile, his deviation has been measured at +/- 9 KHz, and he argues 
> > that
> > there is nothing wrong because a telecom service agency measured & set
his
> > deviation.
> >
> > ------ Original Message ------
> > Received: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:23:57 AM CST
> > From: "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem
> > from
> > pager transmitters
> >
> >>
> >> Except that the vast majority of VHF transmitters/networks weren't
> >> really capable of multi-freq on the fly as you describe. At least around
> >> here, anyway, they were virtually all Micor PURC stations.
> >> And most sites would not have allowed the transmitters to remain without
> >> cavites anyway.
> >> -- 
> >> Jim Barbour
> >> WD8CHL
> >>
> >>
> >> Joe wrote:
> >>
> >> > You will find less and less narrow band cavities on paging
transmitters
> >> > lately.  As the paging industry slowly goes into their death spiral of
> >> > loosing customers, they no longer need 2, 4 or more transmitters at
> > each
> >> > site to deal with the capacity of pagers out there.  What some
> > companies
> >> > are doing is leaving one transmitter at the site and doing
> >> > multi-frequencies out of a single transmitter (This is assuming they
> > were
> >
> >> > all on the same band, 900Mhz for example.)  When they multi-frequency
a
> >> > transmitter they need to remove any narrow band filters off the
> > transmitter
> >> > output.  This may explain why some ham repeater sites that were quiet
> > now
> >
> >> > have noise problems.  The irony of it is that you see paging
> > transmitters
> >
> >> > leaving a site and think that the noise floor is going to go down,
only
> > to
> >
> >> > find that the nose increases tenfold.
> >> >
> >> > 73, Joe, K1ike
> >> >
> >> > At 09:53 AM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>All paging transmitters involved should have narrow bandpass cavities
> >> >>and circulators on their outputs. That's usually considered a must at
> >> >>any site. If the paging company isn't willing to spend the money for
> >> >>that, then they aren't to serious about staying in business.
> >> >>The good news is that VHF common carrier paging is slowly going away,
> >> >>and the remaining frequencies will likely be dropped and released back
> >> >>into the general pool in a few years, or less.
> >> >>There is virtually no VHF paging here in NE Ohio anymore.
> >> >>--
> >> >>Jim Barbour
> >> >>WD8CHL
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