Commercial, I'll give you, but truth is that most ham rigs are coming
out with deviations in the 6 kHz area. I don't 'buy' your statement that
they are designed for 5 kHz deviation. If they were, they would be so
adjusted when they are manufactured.

I take it that "I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS IS COMING FROM AN EXTRA" (spelling
corrected) comment was not directed at me, as I've never said 7 kHz or
higher is acceptable. I think that's why you mentioned the '9 kHz
comment' in your follow-up post, but I wanted to make sure since you
quoted me. In fact, I stated (and backed up my statement with specific
factual reasons) that 4.5 kHz should be the maximum in a 15 kHz
bandplan.

Joe M.

Coy Hilton wrote:
> 
> Come on...someone please say it...Most all radios built for FM use on
> commertial and or amature bands are designed for a MAXIMUM of +-5Kc
> deviation, period! Most receivers are built for +-7.5 Kc band width.
> What is to be gained from running higher than design deviation? What
> you gain is a Radio that sounds like crap if it can be heard.. and
> that "pops" out of the bandwidth of most receivers... and interferes
> with any co-chanel radios. This person should have his license grant
> reviewed. I CAN'T BELEAVE THIS IS COMMING FROM AN EXTRA !!!
> Gee Gang, Stop beating around the bush
> 
> 73
> AC0Y
> 
> --- In [email protected], mch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The 'correct' maximum depends mostly on your neighbors when it comes to
> > the ham band, but you should never run so much as to interfere with
> > adjacent channels. If you are operating in a 15 kHz bandplan where the
> > next adjacent channel above and below you is 15 kHz away, you should run
> > not more than 4.5 kHz deviation (resulting in a 15 kHz bandwidth). That
> > leaves no room for frequency error, but if you're on frequency, and your
> > neighbors are, too, it will help minimize any problems.
> >
> > If you're in a 20 kHz spacing area, 6 kHz may work OK. You would have a
> > bandwidth of 18 kHz. That would allow for up to 0.5 kHz of frequency
> > error on both your part and that of your neighbors. Running 5 kHz
> > deviation would give you both 1 kHz to play with for frequency error
> > since your bandwidth would be only 16 kHz.
> >
> > If you're running UHF in Ohio, give it up - you only have 12.5 kHz to
> > deal with. That means a technical maximum of 3.25 kHz deviation (12.5
> > kHz bandwidth). You may as well convert to SNFM (2.5 kHz deviation).
> >
> > That said, some receivers, particularly scanners, are now designed with
> > much more narrow filters in them that will cut off at 17 kHz. That means
> > listening to your system on one of those will sound choppy on voice
> > peaks if you're running at 6 kHz deviation, or an 18 kHz bandwidth. So,
> > sticking with 5 kHz is the best bet. It will retain compatibility with
> > commercial specs (who are limited by law to 5 kHz maximum deviation for
> > NBFM).
> >
> > Joe M.
> >
> > mbloom0947 wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear John,
> > >
> > > Thank you for the helpful feedback.   I can be a bit pig-headed at
> > > times.   I really wasn't sure exactly what deviation to set.  I did
> > > monitor other repeaters and they are as wide as I mentioned.  Having
> > > said that, I will adjust the deviation back to 5 KHz max if that is
> > > best practice.
> > >
> > >  Michael Bloom, W7RAT
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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