At 10:47 AM 1/16/05, you wrote:

>I am sure this has been asked before, but I did a search archive on
>the subject and came up with 0. I have a GR 300 repeater with no
>duplexer, so I need 2 antennas. I tried a Larson mobile antenna w/
>the ground radials as the receive antenna and the same for the tx
>antenna. These are mounted on a Station Master type antenna tube
>(the guts were pulled out because it was untunable for 2 meters).
>The rx ant at the top and the tx ant at the bottom, about 12' to 14'
>separation. The system would talk to it self. I removed the tx ant and
>replaced with a 4 ele yagi - works good. I need a omni ant for both
>rx and tx. I have an Isolator on the tx and a Bp cavity and a
>circulator on the rx. Why would it desense with one ant and not the
>other ant? I know the idea behind the yagi and the mobile ant. But
>they both have rf going vertical. I need to have minimal separation
>without it talking to it self. Your ideas? Thank you.
>
>Rod

First you do not have enough isolation.
Your  antennas are too close.  You will probably end up
using two antennas separated by a LOT more space.
Look at <http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/separation.html>,
and the other repeater antenna articles at www.repeater-builder.com

Second, what kind of feedline are you using?  Unless it's
100% shielded (and don't mean 99%, I mean 100.000%)
there will be some leakage.  If the two feedlines are
side-by-side up the tower, and are at all leaky, you have
a long, narrow, coupling path.  Been there.  I helped a
beginner who had put up a 2m repeater in his garage with
two long runs of CB-grade RG-8... to two antennas at 40'
and 70' on his dad's HF tower... and wondered why it
desensed itself.

Mike WA6ILQ  





 
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