I checked a few of the other big repeaters, and they have just as much side
channel noise as mine did.  I adjusted the deviation and it's now narrowed
down to around 10 kc either side of the transmit frequency, and not as bad
as it was.

Mathew



At 1/17/2005 01:09 PM, you wrote:


>I had something brought to my attention yesterday on my 2 meter
>repeater.  ABout 15 miles away, I'm being told that my repeater can
>be heard on the output for about 20 to 25 Khz away.  From what I am
>told, it is not legible, but it's there.  The transmitter is a
>Magiorrie Hi-Pro running about 2.5 watts and the PA is a Vocom 200
>Watts.  I'm getting right about 165 watts out of the duplexer, fed
>through 7/8" hardline 160' to the top of the tower into a Diamond
>Dual Band Antenna with a vsr of 1.1 with 1/10 of watt reflected.  Is
>this normal, or is there a problem.

Depends on the radio being used to receive your repeater, but generally 
no.  Most amateur-grade equipment has enough selectivity to completely 
"lose" anything 20 kHz away unless the received signal is driving some 
stage into overload.

2 things to check on your repeater TX: deviation, & modulation 
spectrum.  Deviation can be checked with a service monitor or deviation 
meter.  Modulation spectrum is a little trickier & as such is often 
overlooked.  The easiet way to get a rough idea of your modulation spectrum 
is to connect the 9600 BPS output of a receiver to the line input of your 
computer's soundcard & run an audio spectrum analyzer program (lots of 
shareware out there plus I'm working on one but it's not quite ready for 
"prime time").  Then make your repeater blow squelch & see if the resulting 
noise is flat out to 3 kHz compared to the noise you see with no signal 
present on your monitoring RX.  Above 3 kHz it should start to roll off & 
above 4.4 kHz it should be down 10 dB (that is what I see on all my G.E. 
radios when TX audio is fed to the mic input).

Ideally in a 15 kHz world the rolloff should be steeper.  The audio 
processing boards Kevin has made available 
(<http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/audioprocessingorder.html>) 
would be ideal, but if you don't have a 15 kHz "neighbor" that's close by 
then 10 dB down @ 4.4 kHz should be good enough.

Bob NO6B






 
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