Thank You Doug.  Well stated.

Mike/K1eg

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Bade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] New poll for Repeater-Builder


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>          I read a very interesting column on the concept of free speech
> recently. It went something like this....You assume that just because you
> can freely speak that you are not bound by the consequences of such
action(
> or more specifically that there should not be any just because you have
the
> right to speak) , and that we need to tolerate your opinion.. such is not
> the case....Consequences may easily include ridicule as well as argument
> and even potentially violence. Yes violence is even justified if your free
> speech effort included provocation to that end... Claim free speech and
> call someone a jerk in a bar and see what happens... Walk up to a police
> officer and say "I am going to kill you " or yell "BOMB" in an airport and
> see how free your speech is.... I wonder how much "free speech" you allow
> your employees to exercise...or how much you use at a local council
meeting
> while you are asking the city to spend money with you... get real.....
>
>          Free speech thus is a transmitting and receiving process and
needs
> to be tempered as such. I/we  have just as much right to tell you to stuff
> it as you do to say something. Free speech must be tempered with logic in
> where is and is not the right place to exercise it... The problem is that
> most people preaching about free speech are the last ones who should be
> exercising it....It generally becomes the last defense against self
induced
> ridicule from exercising said free speech at THE WRONG TIME and PLACE.
>
>          When you use free speech to be argumentative, you no longer will
> be carrying a constitutional and academic torch.. It will be viewed for
> what it is... argumentative..
>
>          Just because you have the right to say something does not make us
> obligated to listen... The delete key is my option here as of late, but as
> a  list owner, I have banned folks and censored folks (Russ included) for
> disrupting the harmony of that group, as these forums are not a public
> right of gathering place.. This is not the public street corner... Free
> speech can be limited as the owner of the list sees fit based on his
desire
> to maintain balance and harmony among the users of said list.
>          Your freedom to post here is limited by the list owners desire to
> allow it... It is a not democracy.
>
>          The repeater builder list is about building repeaters, not buying
> them .. WHY do you and Russ even subscribe??? Free advertising????
What????
> You completely disagree with the entire concept of the forum...  then GO
> AWAY.... unless you just like to niggle and argue.... in which case you
get
> what you deserve....
>
>          I am commercially in the business too, I do not use these forums
> to promote my company.... WHY DO YOU ????????????? Do you think you are
> that much smarter that the rest of US ???? I can afford to buy any
repeater
> I want too as well.. But what sense is that unless you happen to like
> reading your callsign in a repeater directory for  an ego trip or
> something....Building is about building.. craftsmanship...
> pride...education, and god forbid maybe even just ....... the fun of
it....
>
>          I think maybe you should just find another choir to preach to....
>
> Doug Bade
> KD8B
>
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> At 10:23 AM 3/25/2005, you wrote:
> >Thought police again!
> >What happened to free speech?
> >You do not like what someone says so
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