Thank You Doug. Well stated. Mike/K1eg
----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Bade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] New poll for Repeater-Builder > > I read a very interesting column on the concept of free speech > recently. It went something like this....You assume that just because you > can freely speak that you are not bound by the consequences of such action( > or more specifically that there should not be any just because you have the > right to speak) , and that we need to tolerate your opinion.. such is not > the case....Consequences may easily include ridicule as well as argument > and even potentially violence. Yes violence is even justified if your free > speech effort included provocation to that end... Claim free speech and > call someone a jerk in a bar and see what happens... Walk up to a police > officer and say "I am going to kill you " or yell "BOMB" in an airport and > see how free your speech is.... I wonder how much "free speech" you allow > your employees to exercise...or how much you use at a local council meeting > while you are asking the city to spend money with you... get real..... > > Free speech thus is a transmitting and receiving process and needs > to be tempered as such. I/we have just as much right to tell you to stuff > it as you do to say something. Free speech must be tempered with logic in > where is and is not the right place to exercise it... The problem is that > most people preaching about free speech are the last ones who should be > exercising it....It generally becomes the last defense against self induced > ridicule from exercising said free speech at THE WRONG TIME and PLACE. > > When you use free speech to be argumentative, you no longer will > be carrying a constitutional and academic torch.. It will be viewed for > what it is... argumentative.. > > Just because you have the right to say something does not make us > obligated to listen... The delete key is my option here as of late, but as > a list owner, I have banned folks and censored folks (Russ included) for > disrupting the harmony of that group, as these forums are not a public > right of gathering place.. This is not the public street corner... Free > speech can be limited as the owner of the list sees fit based on his desire > to maintain balance and harmony among the users of said list. > Your freedom to post here is limited by the list owners desire to > allow it... It is a not democracy. > > The repeater builder list is about building repeaters, not buying > them .. WHY do you and Russ even subscribe??? Free advertising???? What???? > You completely disagree with the entire concept of the forum... then GO > AWAY.... unless you just like to niggle and argue.... in which case you get > what you deserve.... > > I am commercially in the business too, I do not use these forums > to promote my company.... WHY DO YOU ????????????? Do you think you are > that much smarter that the rest of US ???? I can afford to buy any repeater > I want too as well.. But what sense is that unless you happen to like > reading your callsign in a repeater directory for an ego trip or > something....Building is about building.. craftsmanship... > pride...education, and god forbid maybe even just ....... the fun of it.... > > I think maybe you should just find another choir to preach to.... > > Doug Bade > KD8B > > > > At 10:23 AM 3/25/2005, you wrote: > >Thought police again! > >What happened to free speech? > >You do not like what someone says so > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

