At 04:20 PM 4/10/05, you wrote:

>Hi all
>   Does anyone know if a dual band antenna for 144/220 is available. .
>If so who makes it?
>Thanks in advance
>Mike

Mobile, base or mountaintop repeater (i.e. bad weather) ?

Mobile, well, take your pick.

Base, look at Diamond or Comet, but use some of the
self-gluing heat shrink (CATV style) around the joints.
Do a web search at www.repeater-builder.com (the
search function is just above the main menu) for CANUSA.

Repeater - there is only one decent dual band commercial
grade antenna that I have found, and it's a compromise...
the DB 314 is essentially a 8 UHF dipoles (a DB-408, 6.6db
gain) and 4 high band dipoles (half of a DB-304, 3.2db) on
the same mast, made with separate harnesses.  You can
use separate feedlines or a TX-RX commercial grade diplexer
and one feedline.

I ran into the DB314 a number of years ago at a mountaintop
site where the site rental specified one rack cabinet space
(four 1'x1' tiles) and a single space on the tower.

The system was a UHF repeater, a 2m remote base, a 420mhz
point-to-point link to another mountaintop, and a 420mhz
autopatch link down to the ground. The DB314 was ordered by
the system owner and used as separate 2m and 440 antennas
with two feedlines.
The factory mast was not used and was replaced with a longer
one that held the DB314 plus the four 420mhz end-mount beams.

The cabinet was two Moto "J" cabinets, one with the top cut out,
the other with the bottom cut out, stacked and welded together
by an auto body shop, and painted Chevy Malibu white (they were
repairing three local police cars that week, and used some leftover
paint).
The duplexers, isolators & pass cavities and 2m DCI filter were
in the top 2/3 of the upper cabinet, the radio equipment in the
remaining space.

The owner commented 6 months later that the 2m performance
was not what he expected due to the half-size 2m array and if he
had to do it over again he would have bought a DB408 and a
DB204, made up a longer mast on his own, and stacked them
plus the 420mhz beams.

Note that the DB314 is a tall antenna to start with, if you roll
your own by putting a 408 and a 204 on your own mast it's
going to be even longer.  This is definitely a side-mount-only
array.... any normal mast will fold over if you bottom mount it
and a good wind shows up.

Here's the DB314 data sheet:
<http://www.repeater-builder.com/db/db-314.pdf>

The DB314 or the 408/204 combination is NOT cheap, but
quality antennas never are.  You can, however, plan on
amortizing it over 20+ years.  How many Diamonds or Comets
would you have bought over that time period?
And if the site owner requires a professional rigger to climb
the tower for anything you have to figure that cost in also.  All
in all, for the same mountaintop service life the commercial
grade antennas are cheaper than the Diamonds / Comets.

Mike WA6ILQ





 
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