Daron,

Simulcast is the same in analog paging and two-way analog public safety.
The only difference you will be using control links to feed the mobile
transmit back through the system to the simulcast system.  From the link
output feeding all transmitters it's the same.

A good system will sound pretty good, but like I said in the earlier post be
careful who you buy the system from.

Paul


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Daron Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 7:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] voting receivers with simulcast
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I guess I wasn't clear enough.  I'm familiar with the simulcast paging, this
is not paging.  This is public safety police analog repeaters.  The proposal
is to put three in a row down the town, about 3-4 miles apart, voting
receivers at the two south ones linked back to the 'main' site via UHF
control links and a voting controller there.  So, they would vote the best
receiver and simulcast the output of all three repeaters.  Not paging, I
know how paging works, I have a VHF pager on a simulcast system.  What I'm
looking for is somone who has seen an installation like this or has
experience with it.  Personally, I think it will multipath like crazy and
the recovered audio will be crappy.  But, if it is a good thing as suggested
in the recommendation, there must be operating systems out there to listen
to.

Thanks,

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Daron

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 7:07 AM
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Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] voting receivers with simulcast transmitters

Daron,

I will tell you what I know about analog simulcast systems.  There is
basically two manufactures of this equipment, Motorola and
Quintron/Glenayre.  If you want it to be a fairly good sounding system stay
away from Motorola equipment.  I worked in paging back when there was still
a lot of analog pagers on the air, half our systems were Motorola, the other
half Quintron.  We finally gave up on the Motorola systems running analog,
you could set them one day and they may work OK but the next day they would
not.  There is a problem how the built their FSK modulators, they were not
matched like Quintron's.  The Quintron modulators were matched to .2 of a dB
between them, Motorola did no matching.

The trick that will help the most with either system is; try and keep the
overlaps where people will not be using the system.

There is other problems with Motorola's simulcast system but that is what
kept them from having a good (as possible) running simulcast system.

There is still a company in Quincy Il. that sells the Quintron (now
Glenayre) line, their company name is ISC Technologies.  They have the
manufacturing rights for most of the Quintron/Glenayre line or they may have
some used equipment available.

Paul


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of JOHN MACKEY
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 2:00 AM
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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] voting receivers with simulcast
transmitters


Daron-

Most all your 150 MHz or 900 MHz paging systems are going to be simulcast.
If there are any 150 MHz analog paging systems around, try listening to
them.

------ Original Message ------
Received: Tue, 03 May 2005 01:26:06 AM CDT
From: "Daron Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] voting receivers with simulcast transmitters

> Hello Folks,
>
> I'm looking over a radio study done by consultants for our small coastal
> community.  The recommendation includes three simulcast repeaters with
> voting receivers.  We live on the coast, the terrain is covered with tall
> trees that make wonderful reflectors and contribute tons of multipath when
> wet, and it rains plenty.  I can't think of any place with terrain issues
> where I have seen a simulcast VHF repeater system built out.
>
> If you have any references (for or against) a simulcast system like this,
> please drop me a note.  I suspect a fair amount of multipath problems and
> not real great audio for the mobile units based on their location, but I
> wouldn't be able to prove it until the thing got installed.
>
> Ideas?
>
> Thanks,







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