At 02:33 PM 5/21/05, JOHN MACKEY K0SSF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>OK Mike (WA6ILQ), I am reading on the repeater builder web site about the
>Mitrek PL (HLN4181) board.  I have a 10 Meter FM remote base connected to my
>repeater via an RLC-3 controller.  I CURRENTLY use the HLN4020 dual element PL
>board in my 10FM remote base & am strongly considering swapping it for the
>reedless HLN4181 board due to the ease of changing PL.  I know I could simply
>put a Comm-Spec board in, but using the HLN4181 saves money (since have one
>currently collecting dust) and it would give me reverse burst no metter what
>tone I am using.  (Rev burst is nice because I occasionally access another
>remote base across the countty during band openings, and our two remotes using
>the same PL with rev burst is really nice!!)  I could simply set the reedless
>board up with a couple of different tone options & switch resistor networks on
>the fly.

You will need a 2-pole relay to do that - switch the two strobe pulses.

>On the web site regarding the HLN4181 reedless board you state:
>"There is also an audio notch filter on the board to remove the received PL
>tone from the received audio.   However it's a pretty poor design and you
>don't want to try to use it in repeater service - just plan on using an
>external high-pass filter between the receiver and your repeater controller"
>
>So, Mike, what exactly is the proble with the Mitrek high-pass filter?

It's a shunt gyrator design tuned to roughly 134hz.  Picture a series
LC network tuned to 134hz and shunted across the RX audio.

>Is is any worse that the other moto PL board high pass filters?

Much worse.  The Mitrek is a low-Q notch, the Micor and Motrac
at least had real inductors in a true high pass / low cut filter.

Go yourself a favor - grab a Micor RX PL board or a GE M2 repeat
audio card (from a station shelf) and copy the highpass audio filter.

>I know I could simply pick the audio off the discriminator BEFORE
>the PL filter, but I don't do that.  I always use a PL filter BEFORE
>the audio goes into my controller so the PL tone does not get
>repeated

I with others would do that.

>& cause other problems.

BTW look at
<http://www.repeater-builder.com/mitrek/mitrek-interfacing.html#Audio_Out>
for more tricks on Mitrek repeat audio (the link is into the middle of a
writeup on the Mitrek).

Mike WA6ILQ

PS - Note to John: do you think that Silke would do a writeup on
the RCA-700 interfacing? 





 
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