Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

Thu, 14 Jul 2005 19:00:58 -0700

Come to think of it I had a conversation with the Michigan State Police Communications department, they told me that  EVERY police, Sheriff, and Post has a copy of the Communications Manual , she stated weather or not anyone took the time to read it is another story.  and Section 508 has a House Bill  called HB 4544 which will change the scanner law no permit, but a commission of a crime misdemeanor or a felony has 2 fine structures and sentancing guideline .
 
I would not drink a bottle of pop while reading the proposed statute.  price is $1,000.00 to $2,000.00 and add 1 to 2 yers jail time, money is fwd. to the libary fund.
 
go figgure.
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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

What is sad is that NC sold the car to the public and never informed them that it was illegal to use the car for amatuer radio purposes.  As one mentioned, he was not impersonating a police officer, he was wanting to be just like his hero, the fire man.  Argue that one in court, the law says police cars, not fire cars, so if he sticks with that, so goes the law.  Called loop holes.  From personal expirience, they are cops, they make decisions, it is up to them to make sure they know they laws they are enforcing, and it seems in this case, unless he did something that made the officer believe he was acting in that of a police officer, that he did not know the laws, just read part of it.
 
Good case in point, I was stopped by and Indiana State Trooper whom wanted to know why I had a scanner in my car.  As I informed him, it is my ham radio.  He had no clue what it was, or care much for that matter.  He was proceeding to pursue the issue of the law. I quickly pointed out that it is legal for a Ham operator to have such a radio in thier vehicle.  He did not believe me until I pulled the statue out and showed him.  Much to his ignorance, he then proceeded to tell my that I could not have thier frequencies in my radio.  I then word for word read him the law, very nicely, and then informed him that know where in there did it give restrictions on any certain frequencies.  A call back to his command post immediately advised him to be on his very merry way and to basically leave me alone until I broke the law.
 
He apologized, made me aware of why his intent was, I agreed there is a problem, but it does not lie with me.  We met to a mutual understanding, and enough was said.  No one got angry, no bad words were spoken, and end of story. 
 
Unless this officer that arrested him had good reason to pursue the issue, again, we only have his side of the story.  As the trooper had explained to me, if I had showed up in an area that was dispatched for him or his department, then I would have broken the law, and yes there is a law that prevents anyone from showing up at a crime scene.
 
Mathew


"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What's really sad is that some cop with nothing better to do can charge
someone for a "crime" like this. It winds up causing the ham to have to
take a day (or more) off of work to go meet with an attorney, go to court,
etc. He probably will win, but then he has to pay for it all to defend
himself with no recourse against the court, police, etc. for any kind of
reimbursement. Pretty sad......




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From: Alan Bradley Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 08:39:29 -0500
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'
due to ham antennas


I found this on the net, It may be the same story.

http://www.jars.net/

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> Can someone post the message
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> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'
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> This is slightly off topic, but I wanted everyone to be aware of what is
> happening to a NC man who equipped his Chevy Caprice Classic with ham
> antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car that resembles a law
> enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law in NC.
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> This will be my only post on the subject.
> Please direct any discussion there.
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> This could be you if you have many antennas on your car (as many of us
> do) and drive through NC in anything close to the same model car LE uses
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> such as Park Ave or anything based on the same frame).
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