Many of those 3 letter agencies use them as Doug stated not only hundreds of
miles but even more. I don't know how popular it is now to use 2 or 4 wire
that long but I know of a couple of agency repeater boxes that have what
appear to be a CSU connected to them now. Maybe they are changing to a
dedicated T1 line and doing a A/D conversion on the voice and controls. Back
in the analog days it was common to hear dispatchers from DC or LA on the
VHF and UHF federal frequencies.

A few years ago a construction company had offices on a wide strech of FL
and also on both coasts. Their simple UHF repeaters were connected by telco
for a really decent wide area coverage machine.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Doug Bade
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 9:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] 10 Meter Repeater


I would disagree on the later comment as in the commercial world it would
be quite incorrect....

We have been using telco 2 wire and 4 wire DC control and Tone control
lines for years. I know of some dispatch operations which use them hundreds
of miles, while not the cheapest method, it still works.... Telco has been
providing them since the 50's or 60's at least....and still does, although
getting DC continuity is no longer very easy....

Thousands ( probably millions ) of them in service in this country alone,
let alone the rest of the world...
Newer technology is replacing some of them with VOIP technology over
Internet circuits instead of full period lines where time of arrival is not
critical..

Doug
KD8B


At 09:18 PM 8/1/2005, you wrote:


> > OTOH, if you can put your receiver and transmitter
> > any appreciable distance
> > apart, and use two antennas and feedline, then you
> > just need to wireline the
> > audio signals between them.
> >
> >
>Wireline from about 1000 feet to a couple of miles ?
>I don't think so.  Sepreation of this distance for 10
>meters usually means a radio link.
>
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