Mathew, et al,

Without very expensive test equipment, there is no way to "calculate" 
the correct length needed to match a transmitter to a duplexer.   The 
correct length will seldom be some an exact wavelength or simple 
fraction of it.  The terminal impedance of a transmitter can change with 
the change of output power level, so the correct length at one power 
*could* be different from another outputted power.  For most of us, this 
length must be determined experimentally, and is another reason why a T 
Matcher is nice, because it's simpler to tune it, then cut cables.

In the case of Charles' repeater, I believe he was simply lucky when he 
cut the cable to length, and all was well.

Kevin

Mathew Quaife wrote:

> Seems like I might be learning something here.  I took for assumption 
> that the shortest cable length to from the transmitter to the amp, and 
> from the amp to the duplexer was the way to go.  Am I to understand 
> that a certain length should be used, ie a full wave length perhaps?  
> I have some cables lying there, I could try them and see if I notice 
> any changes.  I know 20 watts will not make the difference, but am 
> rather more concerned with spurs that might make it's way out of the 
> repeater.
>  
> Mathew
>
>
> */Charles Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:
>
>     Mathew,
>
>     I would think that you have a little more insertion loss on the TX
>     side than
>     you think, or the cavity may need a little tuning. You may also
>     need to try
>     different lengths of coax between the transmitter and duplexer.
>
>     I have had to change the coax length on one of my UHF repeater
>     because the
>     coax was to short. After calculating the correct length for the
>     coax I was
>     using for a full wavelength I was getting the proper RF out.
>
>     I believe someone else suggested doing this, and it is a very good
>     idea. If
>     all else fails, and this is NOT recommended with 200 watts RF
>     input, you can
>     make very small adjustments on the tuning rods. DO NOT tune the
>     rods with
>     the transmitter on as you can ARC the cavity tuning slug and
>     damage it. Try
>     1/8th turns at first and see if the output power goes up or down.
>
>     I have done this in the past, however it is NOT recommended. Great
>     care must
>     be taken when tuning a cavity in this manor as the cavity can be
>     damaged
>     easily at this power level. If you have 25 watts available you
>     should be
>     able to tune it easier but still be careful.
>
>     Charles Miller
>




 
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