are these for UHF units or VHF?

thanks  john


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Vibrasponder wanted:


> While I don't have the reed freq you're looking for, I
> do have two SpectraTAC receivers. The PL board in
> those will work with either the fat VibraSponder reeds
> (that's what it's designed for) or the thinner
> VibraSender reeds. I found that the senders tend to
> keep vibrating longer when the signal goes away, which
> probably makes them work better in transmit
> applications where they don't need to be responsive to
> input signals.
> 
> I got one "sender" from MDM Radio. I then found a guy
> in Canada who sold me two "sponders". If you look
> around the web long enough you'll probably find the
> one you need. I also bought a brand new SpectraTAC PL
> Decoder board from someone to go into a chassis that
> never had one. Stuff is out there - it's a matter of
> looking and asking anyone and everyone.
> 
> It appears that the "sponder" begins life as a
> "sender" then they solder some thicker metal around
> the sides to make sure it can't fit into a "sender"
> socket.
> 
> Bob M.
> ======
> --- "Adam C. Feuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mike,
>> 
>> The Vibrasponder is needed in a Spectra Tac voting
>> receiver.  If I'm not 
>> mistaken, it's that fatter one.  However, I have
>> seen the thinner one work 
>> in that receiver.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Adam N2ACF
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mike Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 16:05
>> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Vibrasponder wanted:
>> 
>> 
>> > At 08:22 AM 12/11/05, you wrote:
>> >
>> >>Hello All,
>> >>
>> >>I'm looking for a TLN8381A or a KLN6209A
>> Vibrasponder on 67.0 hz.
>> >
>> > The 8381 is the small fat reed used in the Motrac,
>> Motran
>> > and Micor PL decoders.
>> >
>> > The 6209 is one of the small thin reeds, and is
>> factory spec'd as the
>> > decode reed in Mitreks that use reeds (there were
>> two tone boards
>> > for the Mitrek, only one used reeds).
>> >
>> > The fat reeds were about 30% thicker than the thin
>> reeds, and it
>> > makes a difference: if your decoder expects a fat
>> reed and you
>> > plug in a thin reed you get less coupling and it
>> can cost you some
>> > decode sensitivity.  There are some thin reeds
>> that will work in
>> > place of an 8381 but not all.  It depends on the
>> decoder and the
>> > reed.
>> >
>> > For a photo go look at eBay item 5840180977
>> >
>>
> <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5840180977>
>> >
>> > First of all the guy thinks they are crystals,
>> second of all
>> > the photos are out of focus, but they do show the
>> three
>> > basic sizes -
>> > the smallest are Permacode filters (for handhelds
>> - think "solid state 
>> > reed"),
>> > the middle size is a small reed, and the large
>> reed is the 8381 fat reed.
>> > For the purposes of this discussion forget the
>> Permacode.
>> >
>> > So are you looking for a fat reed or a thin reed?
>> >
>> > BTW, what radio is this for?
>> >
>> >>Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>> >>
>> >>Thanks!
>> >>
>> >>Adam N2ACF
>> >
>> >
>> > Mike WA6ILQ
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