I'm assuming that if the old RG-8 cables are being replaced with RG-214 cables 
that are the same length, that the velocity factors of both types of cable are 
the same.....

-----Original Message-----
>From: "Bob M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Dec 19, 2005 7:10 PM
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Old duplexer tuning question
>
>New cables will be a lot more flexible, and with
>RG214's double shield, they should work better too.
>It's tempting to use the coax and TEE fitting as a
>handle when picking the unit up - don't do that !
>
>I found that the connectors added exactly 1/2 inch to
>the cable length PER CONNECTOR, so you would want to
>cut the coax 1 inch shorter than the final lengths of
>11-1/2 and 12 inches. I solder the center pin, rather
>than crimping it.
>
>Not too many analyzers will be able to go down to the
>100+ dB that these duplexers are capable of providing.
>That's one reason why they tell you to tune each
>section separately. I did find that if I use my signal
>generator at a fixed frequency, rather than the
>sweeping tracking generator, I can tune the spectrum
>analyzer to the same frequency and crank down the
>filters. I can barely see the sig gen around 120dB
>down or more, on the final configuration.
>
>As others have mentioned, if your equipment does not
>provide a good 50 ohm impedance, you should use 6-12dB
>pads on each line connected to the section you're
>tuning. Of course, adding this attenuation pushes the
>signal even further down into the noise, but it should
>not be a problem on any single section. Use as much
>signal from the tracking generator as possible (i.e.
>+10dBm or more).
>
>The resulting notch from the entire duplexer will
>appear to be quite wide, even though the individual
>section notches are quite narrow.
>
>Good luck with it in the morning when it's warmer.
>
>Bob M.
>======
>--- tony dinkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> All, thanks very much for the input.  I was already
>> in the process of
>> rebuilding the interconnects to RG-214 with crimp on
>> RFS connectors as
>> a punt.  That old RG-8 was hard as a rock.
>> 
>> I also think my problem with the notches is that I
>> do not have enough
>> dynamic range on my ifr 1600 to see the bottom.  It
>> works ok on the
>> individual cavities but once I combine the whole
>> circuit thats when it
>> mushes out.
>> 
>> I think I will get this thing knocked out in the
>> morning.  This place
>> is getting dark and cold.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> td
>> wb6mie
>
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