Thanks Al I was just about to write the same thing .. all you are 
doing is stopping the bottom of the tower from kicking out the only 
time I pour c-ment is free standing towers

agin Al is right .. a good house bracket will do wonders , if I am 
going more then I put a X brace from the roof to the tower aswill 
I have not lost a tower in 15 years .. 

Rick



On 27 Dec 2005 at 20:52, Al Wolfe wrote:

> Doug,
>     For what you plan to do there is no reason at all to use concrete.
>     Back 
> in the Sixties I helped install dozens of thirty and forty foot Rohn
> towers for TV receivers and never used the first bag of cement when
> using a house bracket.  Many of these towers are still in use today.
> 
>     With a good house bracket installation you should be able to go
>     twenty 
> feet above the house bracket. Dig a hole about two feet deep and put
> your first section in it. Put a couple of bricks under the two legs
> next to the house. Put an inch or two of pea gravel in for drainage.
> If you do the house bracket right (bolted into something very
> substantial) it will last forever. Been putting them up this way for
> more than forty years but will quit when the first one falls down.
> 
>     A piece of Rohn 25 will break into before you can move it sideways
>     if 
> it's two feet in the ground. I repeat, there is no good reason to use
> concrete with a good house bracket install! Let the house bracket do
> its job.
> 
>     If you still feel you must use concrete at least keep the top of
>     the 
> slab six inches or more below grade. That way when you move you can
> cut the tower off below grade and there is no visable evidence that
> there was ever a tower there. The tower should extend down though the
> concrete into some gravel for drainage.
> 
> 73,
> Al, K9SI, also 62
> 
> 
>    Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 00:40:34 -0700
>    From: Doug Fitts W7FDF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Tower Installation
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> My last posting for 2005 with a question:
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> So please comment/send thoughts and suggestions on your own
> experiences with tower installatons. I am looking forward to "getting
> my hands dirty", digging the hole for the tower and rebar and pouring
> the cement...and at age 62, I NEED the exercise!!
> 
> Best 73 and **Happy Holidays**
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