Too bad everyone does not think that way Kevin.

Vincent N6OA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Custer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: FW: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer for sale


> As Eric points out, this duplexer doesn't provide a lot of isolation.  
> Usually 90+ dB is required and more is often necessary, depending on 
> several factors like the actual receiver sensitivity, using a preamp and 
> how good it is, and the actual transmitter power level, spectral purity 
> of it, and actual site conditions.
> 
> That being said, this duplexer would perform very satisfactorily on a GE 
> Mastr II 2 meter repeater (600 kHz) running 100 watts utilizing a PLL 
> exciter, and possibly a preamp.  The GE PLL exciter exhibits about 22 dB 
> less transmitter sideband noise than does a typical multiplier exciter, 
> and that 22 dB doesn't need to be made up for in the duplexer.  Many 
> preamps should not be hit any harder than about -40 to -50 with shear 
> power or, with other out of band sources present, will be driven into 
> the non-linear region.  Considering 100 watts of power into the 
> duplexer, about 70 watts would appear at the antenna port, or a level of 
> +48 dBm.  Now take the 48 dBm and reduce it by 77 dB and -29 dB 
> results.  At neg 29, the stock GE Mastr II UHS preamp would likely work 
> as the measured noise figure & 1 dB output gain compression point are 
> 4.6 dB & +1 dBm, respectively.  Considering a gain of around 12 dB and 
> assuming your VHF preamp performed similarly, you'd get -17 dBm of TX 
> signal at the preamp output, 18 dB below the +1 dB GCP.  While it would 
> work, it won't be able to handle much more signal from any other sources.
> 
> This duplexer could work well at a unpopulated site using (the above 
> suggested) solid state equipment at typical levels (100 watts); with 
> decent receiver sensitivity (-122 dBm for 12 dB sinad).
> 
> Kevin Custer
> 
> 





 
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