The decision whether (or not) to add a preamp to the receive side of a repeater should be made after carefully evaluating your installation.  As many others have preached (besides me!), a receive preamp is *not* a cure-all; indeed, it may create new problems rather than solving old problems.
 
First of all, your antenna should be the optimum design for your station, balancing gain and pattern with "duplexability."  The highest-gain antenna available is not always the best choice, especially if the repeater site is at a high elevation.  Downtilt antennas have very "spoky" patterns, and should be evaluated very carefully.
 
Your feedline should be as good as, and as low-loss as, you can afford.  My rule of thumb is to *always* select a feedline that has no more than 1.0 dB of attenuation at the receive frequency.  Don't be compelled to put your antenna at the 500 foot level of a tower, simply because the tower is 500 feet tall.  Five hundred feet of too-small feedline can have a *lot* of loss, and it's possible that the repeater will work far better just 50 feet above ground.
 
As Chip Angle has pointed out in his excellent application notes, a receive preamp should *always* be preceded by an effective bandpass cavity filter.  Such a filter not only greatly attenuates your repeater's transmitter carrier, but it also keeps out all of the other carriers that can desense your receiver.  Go here:
 
 
A notch-only duplexer is perhaps not the best choice for a repeater- especially in a high-RF environment.
 
73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 
 


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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Receive Preamp

Interested in the idea of placing a preamp on the Rx side to increase HT coverage.  I've read in an article they should not be used with Notch-Reject Duplexers though...we have one.  Thoughts were to place it in the line between the duplexer and Rx radio on a duplexed, single antenna repeater setup.  Any successes or failures with using a preamp w/ this type of duplexer?








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