Ed,

Is that commonly called hybrid ring technology?  I think Sinclair made a
duplexer that used that technology, is that correct?

Paul


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Nate Duehr wrote:
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> Never seen a combiner system made with isolators and mixers have a TX
> cavity beyond it on the antenna side... but I guess it could be done?
>
> Of course, usually the systems feeding such a combiner have TX cavities
> on them of some sort... not always, though.
>
> But... I'm just an Amateur.  And I haven't seen much of anything.  I
> know there's pros on this list.  (Speak up, pros.)  Just following in
> much larger footprints.
>

Nate,

What you are using is a hybrid-ferrite combiner. By design they exhibit
a 3dB loss per mix point. In addition to their inherent high loss, the
other negative is they do expose the world to the non-linearities of the
  isolators. The one positive is there is no minimum frequency
separation between connected transmitters.

A much lower loss combiner uses cavities and isolators. They exhibit
typically <2dB instead of 6dB for four (or many more) TXs with wide
spaced transmitters and as the transmit spacing decreases, the insertion
loss goes up. Below is an example link:
http://www.sinctech.com/catalog/product.aspx?id=750

The upside is much lower loss and the world is protected from the
non-linearities within the isolators. The downside is more cost and
depending on the design / cavity Q, the minimum frequency spacing on
high band is 60 KHz or more.

I don't know of any of the more crowded sites in southern California
that would accept a hybrid-ferrite combiner due to possible interference
to others co-located / nearby systems.

Ed Yoho
WA6RQD





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