I don't intend to continue this thread too much longer, since it's going
quite off-topic, but just to clear up what appears to be a
misunderstanding Coy...
Coy Hilton wrote:
> I have a question for you Nate, Why is that when a OLD Extra
> mentions that they passed the 20 WPM exam that everyone who hasn't,
> passed it jumps on them like they are child molesters?
He didn't say that. Read my message again. He said he was a "real ham"
and I wasn't.
He can go jump in a lake if that's his attitude.
> As long as a person passes what ever exam required at the time, they
> are okay in my book for what ever class license that they have. I
> just don't like people making remarks about people who have acheaved
> something when they haven't.
Agreed. I didn't make any remarks about him other than that his
attitude sucks rocks and that as a public figure tied to ARRL VEC, he
shouldn't act like that.
I make these remarks about him because of his attitude that my Extra
wasn't as "real" as his and his POLICY was that anyone without a 20 WPM
Extra couldn't participate as a VE in his team.
If the Extra had a 20 WPM test attached to it when I took it, I'd have
done it. If it had the requirement that I had to build a radio, I'd
have done it. If it had required that I had to write DSP software in C
on Linux, I'd have done it. I was laid off from a job and bored anyway,
or I wouldn't have done it. General covered everything I needed anyway.
But... since I have it, I volunteered to help an ARRL VE Team out, and
they snubbed me (and he probably snubs other people too).
That's the type of attitude that we don't need.
The guy should go take up underwater basket-weaving if he's so unhappy
with the hobby and how we test people today, seriously. Go do something
that makes him happy.
> Elitist? No! Just proud of our acheavments. I proved to MYSELF that
> I can do what ever I set my mind to. After all putting the old brain
> to a project from time to time won't hurt anyone. I have done a lot
> of things in my life just for the experiance of it.
His attitude was one of exclusion. He didn't want anyone who wasn't a
"real" Extra on his VE team.
Yours is one of inclusion with pride for your achievements. I like that.
There's a big difference. You're reasonable. He's a problem child.
It's not his place to exclude qualified people from his VE Team, and
tying the ARRL name to his behavior makes it even worse.
> I haven't been on HF except for once a year for five or six years.
> I own several repeaters VHF and UHF and support Echolink on them. I
> enjoy the folks who I have met on Echolink Tech or Extra doesn't
> matter to me I just like to talk and do a bit of rag chewing.
Yep... the hobby has lots of great aspects. I enjoy it, or I definitely
wouldn't be here.
Nate WY0X
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