as a VE I will say if they can pass their element 1 thru 4 they have a
license, and the IARU, passed the resolution so its already sitting in
Washinton, DC at the FCC and the ARRL as to what the fine print says.
All I do is the VEC 605 's and grade the exams just a paper processor.
mark ab8ru
Stephen Rice wrote:
I guess I will have to say something on this subject as it is coming down to
the same arguments! Everyone in ham radio has an interest and for some that
interest is CW, some it is SSB,FM,RTTY,PACTOR, Building, Operating,
contesting, Sat work, Volunteers, and the list goes on and on! Stop beating
a dead horse! If someone gets a license they at least had to put an effort
forward and should be applauded for that! When it comes to jerks there are
jerks in every walk of life. You ignore them and move on! Heck, I seldom
pick up a microphone as I like to build and Repeaters is something I enjoy
building and learning from other builders. I could care less how long
someone is a ham or what class they are as its their actions that count! Oh
that's right this is the repeater builders group isn't it? hmm , Guess I
will have to go back to trying to get these darn M/A Panthers to work on 440
so I can make a mobile repeater ! 73's Steve N4YZA K
----- Original Message -----
From: "mch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....
Actually, that's how I passed my tests (which was in front of the FCC -
pre VEC days). I knew the test would be nothing to do with the 'small
words', so when they sent "My name is Henry and I'm in Grand Forks, SD.
The temperature is 78 degrees and sunny. ..." My paper had the
following:
Henry
Grand Forks, SD
78
sunny
And I had all the answers for the test. After all, how important is
exact copy? I can even mis-spell wodrs and you can still understnad the
meaning of waht I said. (did you catch all three 'typos'?) Why should
the code be any different? As long as the message is understood, who
cares about the medium?
Joe M.
numberone5call wrote:
As the VEC for the local ARRL affiliated VE team. All we are
required to grade is the written test of ten questions given to the
applicant. You cannot grade someones test by what they have on their
copy sheet unless the failed the test and your are looking for 1
minute of solid copy. I've had people copy it in their head and pass
the test. Nowhere is it required that you have to write something
down on the copy sheet. All you have to do is get 7 or more of the
10 questions on the exam correct. Doesn't matter what is on the
answer sheet.
You can set a time limit for completing the exam once it is passed
out. A hour is plenty of time. Some of these folks sound like they
are wanting to be BIG BROTHER!!
Dennis no5c ( former ki5fw )
--- In [email protected], "Bob M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
I'm not sure the FCC regs require 100% solid copy, but
that's how I had to earn my code test, and I think it
was done by listening to a 7.5 wpm ARRL transmission
too.
The transmitting portion is optional and I haven't
heard of anyone doing a transmit test in a long while.
Bob M.
======
--- Mike Perryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
We have a local examiner who not only requires 100%
solid copy... he also
requires you to send as well. The part 97 reg
regarding this is pretty
vague... so I guess it is open to interpretation.
mike
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf
Of Bob M.
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:30 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to
communicate.....
I do believe it IS an area that a local VE group can
control, as long as they state that before the test
begins, which was not done in the particular cases I
was at. VEs can over-rule an answer sheet on a
written
test, and they can interpret some other things as
well. If a potential test taker doesn't like the
rules
set up by the VEs, that person can choose to go
elsewhere.
It IS probably legal per the FCC, but do you think
they'd give you all that time to decipher the dots
and
dashes if you went to an FCC office 30 years ago for
a
code test? They'd laugh you right out of your chair.
If the intent is to show knowledge of the code,
and/or
fluency in using it, then you can't copy dots and
dashes for 5 minutes and spend the next hour
decoding
it.
Bob M.
======
--- Dave VanHorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yup, a sheet full of dots and
dashes. Then she went back and translated each
Morse
character to it's appropriate letter, number, or
punctuation.
As far as I'm aware that's legal per the FCC.
It's not up to the VE groups to arbitrarily
tighten
the requirements or
change the testing procedures.
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