It has been said that you aren't a REAL HAM until you have passed a 20 WPM
morse code test & have the license to prove it.

------ Original Message ------
Received: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 01:26:50 PM CST
From: "Coy Hilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

> OH, I JUST HAVE TO REPLY TO THIS........As a technician..(Yes I 
> checked before starting) The way that I see it is that If you wanted 
> to get on HF enough, you would what ever it takes to get there even 
> if you do have to learn the simple 5 words a minute to get there. 
> Therefore I must assume that you don't care enough to study a few 
> days to do it.
>  I studied long enough to pass the 20 WPM to get my Extra ticket. 
> Why you ask well, because I wanted to be an EXTRA. Not to be better 
> than anybody else but to show my self what I had learned or what I 
> am capable of not what I had memorized from a Q&A manual.
> 
>  As for explaining technical concepts...well I'm sure that there are 
> people on this board that have been here for years that could smoke 
> you. It's obvious that you think that you are above the rest of us 
> in knowledge well may be you are well above me but, you don't know 
> me nore the rest of us or what we know. So your communications 
> skills leave much to be desired from my point of view.
> 
> Sorry, goes out to the rest of the gang for my soap box stand and 
> ignorent rambelings.
> 
> AC0Y
> Coy Hilton 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > This is where the rubber meets the road as to the "problem with Ham
> > Radio"
> > 
> > As it has been stated before, Ham Radio seems to gather the most
> > self-centered, egotistical, elite minded group of people who are 
> the
> > poorest of communicators..
> > 
> > Each one should have been required to take a Semantics course in 
> order
> > to not only understand the concept of word meaning, but how 
> delivery
> > affects the message. If you can't get the concept from you brain to
> > words, and deliver those words without clouding them so much with 
> your
> > own bias that they are received poorly at the other end; you simply
> > can't communicate.  This is the most rudimental communications 
> model
> > there is, and nowhere is it included in the testing material.   
> > 
> > There are a lot of truly great folks involved in Ham radio.  
> However,
> > those who have the worst attitudes are often the ones chosen to
> > interface with potential hams either on the Cram-Course or testing
> > level.  This is precisely where we need the best communicators 
> amongst
> > us, ass well as those who understand the testing rules and don't
> > introduce their own bias as fact.  
> > 
> > The CW issue in an emotionally driven one.  There are few among us 
> that
> > can address it rationally in conversation with someone having an 
> opinion
> > that is counter to our personal one.  This isn't likely to change.
> > 
> > When I hear of a VE changing the rules to meet his/her own personal
> > bias, I am again reminded of the very reason we aren't attracting 
> the
> > young, technically competent minds that are available - to the 
> Amateur
> > Radio Service.  
> > 
> > I would be willing to set up a digital station, build a data 
> slicer,
> > explain serial communications hardware, IRQ priorities, discuss the
> > importance of proper ground potential when operating logic-based
> > equipment, talk about haw communications theory (of delivering the
> > spoken or written word) is more important in getting the message 
> through
> > the mental QRM..... Any of these things other than CW to advance 
> from
> > Tech Lite to a "higher" class.  However, that isn't an option.
> > 
> > I am smart enough to repair their rigs (sometimes), but not 
> qualified to
> > check them out on the air when they are working.  
> > 
> > Helluva Concept; this communications thing...
> > 
> > David
> > KD4NUE
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave VanHorn
> > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 8:36 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....
> > 
> > 
> > >Yup, a sheet full of dots and
> > > dashes. Then she went back and translated each Morse  character 
> to 
> > >it's appropriate letter, number, or  punctuation.
> > 
> > As far as I'm aware that's legal per the FCC.
> > It's not up to the VE groups to arbitrarily tighten the 
> requirements or 
> > change the testing procedures.
> >
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