Some do ... earlier ones do not ... except on UHF ??? 

  Neil 


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Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Micro 1?4 kilowatt
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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 10:39:34 -0800 (GMT-08:00)

>I thought these 1/4KW amps used 8560A tubes??
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>>  I don't know about the later models but when I was servicing 
>> the 100 - 275 - 375 watt transmitters, careful maintenance of the 
>> blower motor was necessary.  When you determine the blower motor
>> seems to be slowing down ( lack of bearing lubrication? ) try 
>> that first.  
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>>  If that doesn't do any good, then a trip to the local electric 
>> motor repair/rewind shop is necessary.  Early on, I used to take 
>> the entire motor to that shop - later years and since we had 
>> 30-35 blower motors in various systems everywhere, I got to the 
>> point of disassembling the motor at our shop and taking the 
>> armature to the motor shop for a bearing change.  They had the 
>> bearing press, and the skill, we didn't.  
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>>  Hope this helps / others probably have different ideas.  Whatever 
>> works for you is best. 
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>>  In regards to the pair of 4CX250B's - those tubes require serious
>> air circulation.  If the blower motor needs servicing, the air 
>> filter is dirty or the fins of the tubes are plugged with dirt, 
>> the tubes will have a very short life. 
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>>  Remember, keep all contacts on that tube socket very clean, 
>> properly tensioned, for best performance and reliability. 
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>>  Another item to be aware of is the 4CX250B filament voltage.  The 
>> required filament voltage is 6.0 Volts (not 6.3 Volts) at 2.6 
>> amperes.  Absolute minimum heating time is 30 seconds.  Careful 
>> attention to the correct filament voltage will give longer life 
>> than if you don't.  
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>>  I am reading from the RCA loose-leaf lay-flat Vacuum Tube 
>> Engineering Manual.  
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>>  The tube, properly installed, requires an air-system socket ... 
>> with the use of a ceramic chimney to direct the air coming through 
>> the socket to pass through the plate cooling fins. 
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>>  Hope this helps, 
>>
>>  Neil - WA6KLA 
>> 
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>>Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Micro 1?4 kilowatt
>>Repeater
>>Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:33:14 -0000
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>>>Ahhh... the famous Motorola 1/4kw dual 4cx250b final?  
>>>Never saw one that held up long term without regular 
>>>hands-on service.  Hard to keep a blower going in some 
>>>of the earlier units. 
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>>>You're going to love trouble-shooting the safety interlock 
>>>circuits connected to the power supply.  Just a bit more 
>>>fun than working on an MSY or MHB repeater/base. 
>>>
>>>cheers, 
>>>skipp 
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>>>> "ke4ovn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> Hello Group:
>>>> Looking on information on A motorola micro repeater, 
>>>> 2 tube final Model Number-B93rcb-31058.On 2meter 
>>>> band now, Tube final drop from 250watts to 30 watts. 
>>>> Need to find a manual number so I can troubleshoot.
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