Dick,

You have pretty much described the primary feature of the IMTS (Improved
Mobile Telephone System).  Although there were 11 channels available, even
large cities normally had no more than seven or eight assigned.  One vacant
channel was always transmitting an "idle tone", which all IMTS telephones
would seek out and park on.  When a base-to-mobile call was initiated, each
mobile radio would listen for its unique ID number.  When a mismatch
occurred, each mobile unit would disengage from that channel and seek an
idle tone on another vacant channel.  The central office equipment would
establish the idle tone on another vacant channel, to capture all of the
mismatched mobile units.  Obviously, every mobile unit except the one that
was called will quickly be monitoring the new idle channel.  The called
mobile transmits an acknowledge tone, and the CO then connects the caller
and called parties together.

It's interesting to consider that the analog 800 MHz cellular telephone
systems that are still in use today use exactly the same process.  Both the
Block A and Block B cellular frequency plans include 21 control channels:
Block A is 879.390 to 879.990 MHz at 30 kHz intervals, and Block B is
880.020 to 880.620 MHz at 30 kHz intervals.  Each cell site transmits a
continuous data stream on its assigned control channel, and all mobile
phones monitor this channel.  The data stream tells each phone where to go
when a call comes in, where to go when placing a call, and what control
channel to go to when the signal drops below a specified level.  Although
most carriers are moving to digital systems (CDMA, PCS, GSM, etc.), the
analog 800 MHz systems will be around for a few more years to serve the
dwindling group of hangers-on.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dick
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 8:44 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] AGT = IMTS ?

Hey, Eric:

I had a full-blown duplex UHF IMTS way back when and it, too, had
a Secode system.  It was about as automatic as one could get back then.
In full auto, it would locate an unused channel, lock on it and let you
know that it was time to dial.  You could also go semi-auto and poke
around the channels until you fell on an open one.  As I recall, an
open channel was indicated by a tone transmitted continuously on the
open channel.  When the IMTS mobile captured the channel, the tone
went away and the Secode stuff did its thing.  This IMTS phone was
built into an attache case.

The RCVR had no squelch, but the RCVR audio was turned off until
the radio captured a channel.

73,

Dick W1NMZ

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Eric Lemmon
To: [email protected]
Sent: 25 March, 2006 21:24
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] AGT = IMTS ?


Skipp,

I'm just grasping at straws.  The IMTS is a lot more complex than a simple
duplex system that might have been used internally by AGT rather than by
subscribers.  Back in the late 60's, I used a half-duplex GE Pacer (!) radio
in an MTS system for a couple of years after IMTS became available.  It
would have been better to use a full-duplex radio, but this is what I had at
the time.  The Pacer was an all-tube radio, except for the transistorized
power supply.  It had a mechanical decoder made by Secode.  To make a call,
I had to key the handset for a few seconds, and wait for the mobile operator
to respond.  That was not much more sophisticated than a magneto telephone!
I eventually got kicked off the system because there were only a handful of
people using the manual MTS- everyone was scrambling to get on the IMTS
bandwagon.  Ah, yes... Those were the good old days!

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of skipp025
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 9:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] AGT = IMTS ?

Would the Alberta Gov Telephones system be something like
an IMTS (system) operation?

Cute to think Motorola came out with something later than
the Pulsar for IMTS... or was there a UHF/VHF Privacy Plus
IMTS Phone?

skipp

> "Eric Lemmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I suspect that your full-duplex radio was used in a mobile
> telephone system by Alberta Government Telephones (AGT),
> which later changed its name to TELUS.  If there's no
> selective call decoder in it, or loose wiring suggesting
> that one was connected, it might have used multiple PL tones for
> simple selection.  Just a thought...
>
> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY 





 
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